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05-17-2012 | 06:47 AM
#281
Get's Every Day Off
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Retired
Me Too
+1 Buzz - not just a 55 yo F/O but a 55 yo F/O with little to no chance of upgrading to the left seat (and I'm not talking NYC M88A on reserve) prior to mandatory retirement @ 65. Also, a sad commentary is that I still haven't exceeded my final year's compensation on active duty in 2000 as a 20 year LtC (which oh by the way included a pension and no out of pocket health care).
Not whining by the way...just stating some facts.
05-17-2012 | 06:48 AM
#282
The Brown Dot +1
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From: 777B
One of my best friends is in the "our thing" crowd. He runs a generally legitimate business and is a great guy. I was over at his storefront playing cards a couple weeks ago when a couple of cars pulled in filled with Tony Soprano and Johnny Sack types. They wanted to discuss some "business."
I have to admit, I was very uncomfortable when they walked in...the vibe was palpable. I got introduced all around and as soon as I could, made my way to the door.
Not my bag baby.
I have to admit, I was very uncomfortable when they walked in...the vibe was palpable. I got introduced all around and as soon as I could, made my way to the door.
Not my bag baby.
05-17-2012 | 06:48 AM
#283
No longer cares
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From: 767er Captain
For now! The third rail of politics now will be these very issues. Before any public sector person (military or otherwise) losses $.01 Boner and company better take the hit first with term limits, pensions and health care.
Gee maybe things would really change if congress has to live by the real world rules!
Gee maybe things would really change if congress has to live by the real world rules!
05-17-2012 | 06:51 AM
#284
The Brown Dot +1
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From: 777B
For now! The third rail of politics now will be these very issues. Before any public sector person (military or otherwise) losses $.01 Boner and company better take the hit first with term limits, pensions and health care.
Gee maybe things would really change if congress has to live by the real world rules!
Gee maybe things would really change if congress has to live by the real world rules!
Does anyone find it interesting that "earned" entitlements are on the chopping block, but "unearned" entitlements are not?
In fact, unearned entitlements are a growth industry.
05-17-2012 | 06:52 AM
#285
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From: 767er Captain
+1 +1 I resemble BOTH of those remarks! (except change 2000 to 1999). And yes tsquare it has a pension and medical which the guberment is trying to erode at every opportunity. Forgive me if I feel like I earned it. It is also what enabled me to scrape by on BOTH of my furloughs.
05-17-2012 | 06:55 AM
#286
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From: 767er Captain
Which is why the election in November is so vastly important to the survival of this country. Your observation is spot on.
05-17-2012 | 06:59 AM
#287
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Gets Weekends Off
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I was absolutely disgusted when I read the post basically saying we should be ok with selling scope for a little bit of pay because he is only a couple years from retirement so he needs the couple extra bucks. I'm so glad so many of you responded in ways I could not quite articulate without going on a rant! Wow that was disgusting. At least I am pretty confident that is not the majority of our pilot group!
A couple extra bucks for selling scope would result in industry wide stagnation, meaning lower pay over time and worse QOL for ALL, but maybe the very very top. I would definitely vote no to the 12% (rumored overall increase by Jan 1) if it would mean everyone being stagnated even more in their careers. Of course this is all speculation so we will see what the actual contract says if it passes the MEC
Has anyone heard any rumors about the on-going MEC deliberations?
A couple extra bucks for selling scope would result in industry wide stagnation, meaning lower pay over time and worse QOL for ALL, but maybe the very very top. I would definitely vote no to the 12% (rumored overall increase by Jan 1) if it would mean everyone being stagnated even more in their careers. Of course this is all speculation so we will see what the actual contract says if it passes the MEC
Has anyone heard any rumors about the on-going MEC deliberations?
05-17-2012 | 07:01 AM
#288
No longer cares
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From: 767er Captain
One of my best friends is in the "our thing" crowd. He runs a generally legitimate business and is a great guy. I was over at his storefront playing cards a couple weeks ago when a couple of cars pulled in filled with Tony Soprano and Johnny Sack types. They wanted to discuss some "business."
I have to admit, I was very uncomfortable when they walked in...the vibe was palpable. I got introduced all around and as soon as I could, made my way to the door.
Not my bag baby.
I have to admit, I was very uncomfortable when they walked in...the vibe was palpable. I got introduced all around and as soon as I could, made my way to the door.
Not my bag baby.
05-17-2012 | 07:02 AM
#289
Line Holder
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Except for the pilots furloughed that have had the five years surgically removed from the middle of their careers.
05-17-2012 | 07:03 AM
#290
The Brown Dot +1
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From: 777B
Are you better economically off on social security OR are you better off on welfare, wic, or disability.
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