Pos 96... Pos2012??
05-25-2012 | 08:20 PM
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Pos 96... Pos2012??
Ok, so we've all heard about POS 96 and many on here went through it.
Can we get some details here on what myself and our Northern brethren missed, and are we being led down a similar path of "hey sign this and we'll grow!"
Can we get some details here on what myself and our Northern brethren missed, and are we being led down a similar path of "hey sign this and we'll grow!"
05-25-2012 | 08:59 PM
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The POS96 contract was most famous for the early out provisions.
Its a long story but there were many allegations of serious corruption and misconduct on the part of the negotiators and members of the MEC. I don't think there is any hint of that sort of thing this time.
The 96 MEC "misled" (to use the kindest word) the membership about the contents of that contract. Management misled the pilots about their finances and the need for certain concessions. It was a mess. We had the "Ryan Report" which ALPA commissioned to investigate the whole affair and then they disavowed it and tried to bury it when it came back with the nasty truth. We had a lot of fallout and recriminations. DALPA was a circular firing squad for a while after that.
We can criticize this 2012 contract, but thankfully the integrity of the MEC is not an issue.
This is not like 96.
The POS96 contract was most famous for the early out provisions.
Its a long story but there were many allegations of serious corruption and misconduct on the part of the negotiators and members of the MEC. I don't think there is any hint of that sort of thing this time.
The 96 MEC "misled" (to use the kindest word) the membership about the contents of that contract. Management misled the pilots about their finances and the need for certain concessions. It was a mess. We had the "Ryan Report" which ALPA commissioned to investigate the whole affair and then they disavowed it and tried to bury it when it came back with the nasty truth. We had a lot of fallout and recriminations. DALPA was a circular firing squad for a while after that.
We can criticize this 2012 contract, but thankfully the integrity of the MEC is not an issue.
This is not like 96.
05-26-2012 | 06:02 AM
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The POS96 contract was most famous for the early out provisions.
Its a long story but there were many allegations of serious corruption and misconduct on the part of the negotiators and members of the MEC. I don't think there is any hint of that sort of thing this time.
The 96 MEC "misled" (to use the kindest word) the membership about the contents of that contract. Management misled the pilots about their finances and the need for certain concessions. It was a mess. We had the "Ryan Report" which ALPA commissioned to investigate the whole affair and then they disavowed it and tried to bury it when it came back with the nasty truth. We had a lot of fallout and recriminations. DALPA was a circular firing squad for a while after that.
We can criticize this 2012 contract, but thankfully the integrity of the MEC is not an issue.
This is not like 96.
The POS96 contract was most famous for the early out provisions.
Its a long story but there were many allegations of serious corruption and misconduct on the part of the negotiators and members of the MEC. I don't think there is any hint of that sort of thing this time.
The 96 MEC "misled" (to use the kindest word) the membership about the contents of that contract. Management misled the pilots about their finances and the need for certain concessions. It was a mess. We had the "Ryan Report" which ALPA commissioned to investigate the whole affair and then they disavowed it and tried to bury it when it came back with the nasty truth. We had a lot of fallout and recriminations. DALPA was a circular firing squad for a while after that.
We can criticize this 2012 contract, but thankfully the integrity of the MEC is not an issue.
This is not like 96.
05-26-2012 | 06:37 AM
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A lot of that POS96 growth was a C scale alter ego airline in Orlando.
We had to clean up that mess in C2K with a system re-bid.
1 Letter # 7
2 LETTER OF AGREEMENT
3
4 Between
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6 DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
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8 and the Air Line Pilots in the Service of
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10 DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
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12 as represented by the
13 AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL
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15 DELTA EXPRESS RE-BID
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