New flaw in TA scope
06-04-2012 | 06:24 AM
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Not that I expect an answer but; How far below the direction is year one?(two, three.)
Significant or less than 100 million?
Significant or less than 100 million?
06-04-2012 | 06:25 AM
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However, we don't have C2K rates either and we have a liberal scope policy. We can't throw stones at them for not having C2K rates and I just wanted to point that out.
So to me a C2K rate comparison is extraneous to this point- they have better scope now, they make more money now.
06-04-2012 | 06:29 AM
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You've read the TA.
We're taking credit for reducing DCI by 150 aircraft.
We're taking credit for having a requirement for JV and profit/loss sharing production balances.
We're taking credit for a block hour ratio that protects Delta pilot flying.
We're taking credit for shifting more flying to mainline.
There was no trade of scope for pay.
We're taking credit for reducing DCI by 150 aircraft.
We're taking credit for having a requirement for JV and profit/loss sharing production balances.
We're taking credit for a block hour ratio that protects Delta pilot flying.
We're taking credit for shifting more flying to mainline.
There was no trade of scope for pay.
06-04-2012 | 06:31 AM
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When I made the jab that maybe SWA/FDX/UPS make more than us because they have better scope clauses you said why didn't their scope clauses give them our C2K rates? So C2K rates became a benchmark of success.
However, we don't have C2K rates either and we have a liberal scope policy. We can't throw stones at them for not having C2K rates and I just wanted to point that out.
So to me a C2K rate comparison is extraneous to this point- they have better scope now, they make more money now.
However, we don't have C2K rates either and we have a liberal scope policy. We can't throw stones at them for not having C2K rates and I just wanted to point that out.
So to me a C2K rate comparison is extraneous to this point- they have better scope now, they make more money now.
06-04-2012 | 06:32 AM
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For the 5 years leading up to C2K Delta had a pre-tax income of $7.4 Billion dollars. Our margin peaked in 1998 at 12%, and averaged well north of 10% for that time. For the 5 years leading up to C2012 Delta had a pre-tax income of $1.1 billion. Our pre-tax margin averaged 3.7% for that time. Oh, and those numbers for C2K are for a Delta standalone operation. Adding in NWA takes the total profit to well over $10 billion.
Not saying that'd change the PTI, just more of a curiosity of what pilots were having to compete with internally.
06-04-2012 | 06:35 AM
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Slow asked you this:
And you answered this:
You totally ignored the question. Weak and transparent deflection at best.
You totally ignored the question. Weak and transparent deflection at best.
06-04-2012 | 06:36 AM
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I'd have to go research the numbers (and i won't, because as you point out it's not material), but during that C2K time frame Delta had the largest fleet of RJ's and the largest percentage of DCI/regional flying of the majors.
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