Trading scope for pay
06-05-2012, 01:23 PM
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Trading scope for pay
How did we get from the U.S. majors flying all the jets except for some grandfathered and inefficient BAE-146s to a major airline pilot group voting to allow an outsourced fleet of 325 76 seaters with first class and mainline/regional block hour ratios that have an easy escape clauses for management easily escape that part of the agreement?
What major airline group gave away the first 50-seaters? The first 70 seaters? The first 76 seaters? What were the circumstances in which they gave these away? Was it under the duress of bankruptcy, after a strike or simply a trade for better terms in the rest of the contract without even putting up a fight?
Airline pilot services are a cartel of sorts. Guess why cartels fail?
What major airline group gave away the first 50-seaters? The first 70 seaters? The first 76 seaters? What were the circumstances in which they gave these away? Was it under the duress of bankruptcy, after a strike or simply a trade for better terms in the rest of the contract without even putting up a fight?
Airline pilot services are a cartel of sorts. Guess why cartels fail?
06-05-2012, 01:32 PM
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We don't allow a fleet of 325 76 seaters. And even if this TA passes we STILL won't be allowing a fleet of 325 76 seaters.
And where are the easy escape clauses? Have you still not read Sec 2 of our current contract or TA?
And where are the easy escape clauses? Have you still not read Sec 2 of our current contract or TA?
06-05-2012, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
We don't allow a fleet of 325 76 seaters. And even if this TA passes we STILL won't be allowing a fleet of 325 76 seaters.
And where are the easy escape clauses? Have you still not read Sec 2 of our current contract or TA?
And where are the easy escape clauses? Have you still not read Sec 2 of our current contract or TA?
06-05-2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
We don't allow a fleet of 325 76 seaters. And even if this TA passes we STILL won't be allowing a fleet of 325 76 seaters.
And where are the easy escape clauses? Have you still not read Sec 2 of our current contract or TA?
And where are the easy escape clauses? Have you still not read Sec 2 of our current contract or TA?
06-05-2012, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
True, 223 90 seaters configured with 76 seats, and 102 70 seaters.
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06-05-2012, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
True, 223 90 seaters configured with 76 seats, and 102 70 seaters.
06-05-2012, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
And where are the easy escape clauses? Have you still not read Sec 2 of our current contract or TA?
Company will be excused from compliance with the provisions of this Note in the event a circumstance over which the Company does not have control is the cause of such non-compliance.
Feel free to point out what indicates otherwise.
Originally Posted by johnso29
We don't allow a fleet of 325 76 seaters. And even if this TA passes we STILL won't be allowing a fleet of 325 76 seaters.
Originally Posted by mynameisjim
True, 223 90 seaters configured with 76 seats, and 102 70 seaters.
06-05-2012, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
I read it and nothing I saw in it trumps this Sec 1 exit clause for management to escape the mainline/regional block hour ratios.
Company will be excused from compliance with the provisions of this Note in the event a circumstance over which the Company does not have control is the cause of such non-compliance.
Company will be excused from compliance with the provisions of this Note in the event a circumstance over which the Company does not have control is the cause of such non-compliance.
06-05-2012, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
And eventually those 70 seaters could be exchanged for more 90 seaters configured for first class and a total of 76 seaters.
06-05-2012, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Read Sec 2 Definitions
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