I just can't help but notice the part about the unwanted jets that are no longer economical decreasing while the wanted jets that are more economical (or in Bill's words profitable) increasing.

What language in the TA reverses that trajectory?

I get there will be caps, but we have a cap right now and we're tossing it. So I am learning that caps are not to be taken seriously. So what language reverses the trajectory of an increasing number of large Lumberg jet hulls?

There's a DPA article coming out that will state that the voting software only allows you to change your no vote to a yes vote. It inhibits you from changing your yes vote to no. :D

It's so sad that this TA just plays toward the hate of 50 seaters (engendered hate of comair and the 50 seaters they started with) and not the real long term problem of outsourcing.

So placate the mob by tossing them some red meat like you're getting rid of the 50 seaters and reducing the number of 76 seaters by 32!!! Just as long as they vote for the TA and not question the details.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/hutch213/myblog/angry-mob.jpg

Here's a question, if I wanted 70 new 76-seaters tomorrow, how long would it take until Bombardier was able to fulfill that order? 2015?

Filling in for Lumberg:
So you're telling me you don't want to work for a profitable company? Are you sure you don't work for Southwest?

It's sad some of you guys dream about getting the Beech 1900 market back. Why stop at RJs? Every darn pilot should work for mainline, including the traffic watch guy in the C152! Especially that guy, he would look great in the hat and jacket.....

Some areas have already been outsourced, and it really would be cost prohibitive to recapture it. Routes to smaller cities, just won't make money with a 717. There is no way to compete with the whipsawed regionals to the smaller cities. So, cap 'em, ratio it, and concentrate on reducing outsourcing as best you can. But, if a route has to have an RJ, put one on there that does make money. Have a great day!

It's sadder that you don't understand the importance of that if there's Delta painted on the side of that Beech 1900.

If Delta is painted on the side of that 152, it should be a Delta pilot flying it. Period.

You know nothing of such a cost for the company. Prohibitive is your opinion.

You're in no position to know that. You do NOT have the data.

Sure there is. The company would rather have the whipsaw at any cost IMO however.

We tried that already. Now people like you are advocating a new larger cap.

Caps mean nothing if people just continue to Lumberg them.

Carl

Why stop with the RJs indeed! Bet those Skywest and Comair guys could fly the MD88 and 90 as well as we do, but cheaper. After all we want to work for a company that makes money, right?

It doesn't do that at all.

It removes aircraft from DCI
It provides a block-hour ratio

Neither of those two are measures of capacity.

Our AFKLM/AZ JV measures capacity expressed in EASK and has no block-hour provisions, yet we "win" on the block-hour side becasue we fly smaller jets.

Cheers
George

Where does it say in the TA that 88 717s are mandated?