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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1230119)
So few people do that though. We have collectively learned nothing from all our industry has ben though over the generations and even recently. We as a society define "affordable" as how much can we get on credit. That makes us weak and makes us our own worst enemies and puts management in charge big time. If you can't "afford" to walk away, you weaken your position significantly and will end up with much less.
Worker bees running up their "monthly nut" so they can't afford to lose the job has been one of the most powerful weapons in management's arsenal ever. With very few exceptions, if you can't (or won't) pay cash for it, you can't afford it. Period. & posted in every airline crew room. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1230119)
With very few exceptions, if you can't (or won't) pay cash for it, you can't afford it. Period.
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Originally Posted by hair-on-fire
(Post 1230998)
I don't think many economists would agree with you. Access to credit and deep pools of liquidity are required components of capitalism and the free market.
I use credit for everything...however, My credit card has great cash back rewards and is paid off in full every month. Buying things in credit instead of cash MAKES me money. When it comes to financing...I never turn down 0 percent. I get to buy something and continue to MAKE money on my money. Still basically the same thing as you said...I do not buy things that I can not "afford" regardless of the means of which I actually purchase them. |
MOST economists
You are right, MOST economists think credit is essential to a "capitalistic" society. But the ate Keynesian economists and have bankrupted our country (world). Most of us know that living on credit doesn't work in our own finances. But we try to apply it to government finances and it leads to failure we are finding out.
Also, their capitalism is crony capitalism. Not free markets that the us was founded on. |
And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming........
I'm going to buy JetBlue (the whole thing) with several other pilot friends and Tom Horton. Now that the company is in play, your stock options will go up! Day traders rejoice, it's the new world order !!! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ It's a joke. |
Originally Posted by jacjetlag
(Post 1231086)
And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming........
I'm going to buy JetBlue (the whole thing) with several other pilot friends and Tom Horton. Now that the company is in play, your stock options will go up! Day traders rejoice, it's the new world order !!! |
Originally Posted by hair-on-fire
(Post 1230998)
I don't think many economists would agree with you. Access to credit and deep pools of liquidity are required components of capitalism and the free market.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1231270)
You mean required components of crony capitalism/corportism where you magically print money and banks can loan out the same dollar 10 different times, at the same time, as long as everything magically grows and the music never stops. Then the banks can charge 10X the interest and command more principal and interest than exists, so the process grows politically to feed itself until it collapses. Look at our debt, it isn't working. Most economists are Keynesians by default, and all, 100%, Keynesians are idiots. No exception.
You are spot on. Those who think voting out the incumbent in the upcoming election are replacing one Keynesian with another in a different wrapper. Read Hayek or Von Mises from the Austrian school of economics. It's as much fun as reading Stephen Hawking but just as fundamentally sound. One prez candidate has it right but is unfairly and incorrectly derided as a loony. Watch him grill Bernanke in some of the Fed hearings - in fact YouTube it. Not as much fun as watching Kim and Chloe but if anyone gives a poo about monetary policy and stopping the fiscal bleeding in the U.S. then it's a good watch. |
Wow, fascinating how far off topic we can get.
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Originally Posted by Climbto450
(Post 1231411)
Wow, fascinating how far off topic we can get.
While this stuff is broad based, some of it directly effects airlines and therefore our jobs. Plugging our ears and saying "la la la la la la I don't like politics la la la la la" is pretty poor career risk management. |
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