Why are people openly discussing what is essentially SSI info on a public forum?
The mods don't seem to have any trouble when somebody calls somebody a name; or flames, or trolls... but talk about stuff that shouldn't be on a public BBS and... crickets.

The "how it works" can be explained by their IOE instructor, or by a phone call to your union rep, or chief pilots office. There is ZERO need for this information to be on a public BBS.

 

Huh? I don't think procedures for Jumpseating qualifies as SSI. WAY too many hoops you have to jump through to even get close to an A/C via jumpseating, and each of those hoops requires a valid company ID, being in the CASS database, and general aircraft knowledge that the general public doesn't have much chance of knowing, even less being able to talk about in an intelligent manner enough to not raise the suspicions of someone else.

 

Yes please answer this? As far as I know AMF has not been able to recip for years? has this changed recently? I sure could have used a ride this AM after my flight home cancled and FlightStat showed 2 AMF flights going my way.

 

Ours does? Well I believe your wrong on the fact ours list every airline in recip agreement. Where did you find that, cause Ive never seen it.

 

Why don't you answer me this? Why are dispatchers allowed in CASS? No other certificated airman are other than pilots and dispatchers. Why did your unions allow this and no other airman? Do they not compete with you for jumpseats when you commute?

 

They can ride because of "familiarization" flights and whatnot. That is a very optional part of their job description though, and were it not for the involvement of pilot union(s) (mostly ALPA but others helped) there wouldn't be a CASS system in the first place for them to pigy back onto.

Its rediculous to take pilots from carriers that don't reciprocate anyway though, with a few limited exeptions like a period of time when a carrier suddenly shuts down or is on strike, etc.

At some carriers, non reciprocating pilots can't ride, period. Encouraging pilots to "just give it a try" when they know they aren't allowed is incredibly selfish and irresponsibile. Now if an airline for some reason wants to allow non reciprocating pilots to JS, fine but if an airline doesn't, don't try, hoping to "get by" the agent and CA. That's very uncool. And at all airlines no one should ever, ever, attempt to jumpseat when they should be on a paid seat from their company.

 

Dispatchers as part of their job are required to ride a certain number of times each year. Some airlines extend additional jumpseat options to dispatchers and I am all for it. They don't compete with me because of the booking windows and priorities. Were you even around after 911? Were you around in the fifties when battles were fought over the jumpseat and Captains authority. Have you donated money or helped in the ongoing fight with congress to tax non revenue travel. A battle fought at least 3 times since I have been hired and won each time but coming back again? Who has beaten it back each time? Commuting is going to get very expensive if ALPA can't keep winning that war.

 

Mostly true, but even if travel benefits are taxed, companies can still very easily get around that for commuters by "basing" you at home and having you stand by for your commute just like you do now. If you don't make it, the same rules apply as do today. No additional costs to the company, no impact to revenue seats available, no change at all. There is nothing they can do to tax commuting if the company and pilot groups work together on it. Nothing. It will be an extremely easy work around.

Now for vacations and whatnot, we'd be screwed.