Getting Added to CASS
08-23-2012 | 03:08 PM
#31
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Can't somebody give the guy a straight answer?
Amerijet, as a CASS participant, has a CASS Administrator who is responsible for maintaining the CASS data base for the company. That includes adding qualified employees, updating files as necessary and removing those who are no longer qualified for whatever reason.
It is probably one of the pilots or perhaps someone who works in the Chief Pilot's Office. The CPO should be able to tell you who it is. Just ask him (or her) if he has added you to the data base.
Also, for your information, there is a list of airlines/aviation companies that consider participation in CASS as a reciprocal agreement. Your Administrator should be able to give you that list.
Amerijet, as a CASS participant, has a CASS Administrator who is responsible for maintaining the CASS data base for the company. That includes adding qualified employees, updating files as necessary and removing those who are no longer qualified for whatever reason.
It is probably one of the pilots or perhaps someone who works in the Chief Pilot's Office. The CPO should be able to tell you who it is. Just ask him (or her) if he has added you to the data base.
Also, for your information, there is a list of airlines/aviation companies that consider participation in CASS as a reciprocal agreement. Your Administrator should be able to give you that list.
08-23-2012 | 03:11 PM
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You didn't even use to need CASS to ride in the back? Now the actual j/s of course, but if someone clears security like everyone else then where is the security breach?
I understand wanting to follow the manuals but I think that is something that our companies have set up that was not an actual FAR but as written did receive FAA approval per the manuals so I understand where guys are coming from with that one but if it was a FAR, SWA wouldn't accomadate all these guys.
I know they do though because I worked for a non CASS carrier before and they still allowed cabin only j/s for us.
I understand wanting to follow the manuals but I think that is something that our companies have set up that was not an actual FAR but as written did receive FAA approval per the manuals so I understand where guys are coming from with that one but if it was a FAR, SWA wouldn't accomadate all these guys.
I know they do though because I worked for a non CASS carrier before and they still allowed cabin only j/s for us.
08-23-2012 | 04:30 PM
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So I mis-typed. That does not change the validity of my answer. They still have to have a CASS Administrator, and there is a list of airlines that consider CASS participation as a reciprocal agreement.
08-23-2012 | 04:46 PM
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CASS Airlines
About a year old, but I'm sure it's still fairly accurate.
08-23-2012 | 05:09 PM
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Amazing what Google turns up.
CASS Airlines
About a year old, but I'm sure it's still fairly accurate.
CASS Airlines
About a year old, but I'm sure it's still fairly accurate.
Jumpseat Information > Home
Also google: ALPA National Jumpseat Committee's Jumpseat Guide
08-23-2012 | 06:12 PM
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Our FOM requires a recip agreement and has a list of carriers in the manual. I've never understood the spread of wrong information regarding CASS. CASS doesn't mean you can ride for free with another "CASS carrier" (I don't even get that term). It just means you can ride up front if the cabin is full in the back.
08-23-2012 | 09:00 PM
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From a former Ameriflight pilot, welcome aboard. You will be welcomed on all SWA flights. For what it is worth, all FOM's and airlines view jumpseaters differently. But, all FOM's are FAA approved documents. So, if it is allowed in the FOM, you are allowed if the Captain will agree to take you, even if there is no reciprocal agreement, as long as there is a cabin seat available. My previous two airlines would in fact accept non reciprocal pilots at Captains discretion as long as there were seats in back. The People commenting here are talking about what their specific airline approves, it does not encompass all airlines policy on the issue.
08-29-2012 | 09:13 PM
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Our FOM requires a recip agreement and has a list of carriers in the manual. I've never understood the spread of wrong information regarding CASS. CASS doesn't mean you can ride for free with another "CASS carrier" (I don't even get that term). It just means you can ride up front if the cabin is full in the back.
08-31-2012 | 04:06 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need a reciprocal jumpseat agreement to allow someone on your flight deck.... that recip agreement is a UNION thing. And ***** the union. Check your own FOM/GOM, but if it allows a pilot in the flight deck jumpseat with CASS approval and PIC approval, then welcome aboard!
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