Phoenix court hears US Air seniority case
#111
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Well you better think long and hard. Have you read the term sheet? Have you read the part that mandates the apa displace usapa asap? Engage your brain and tell me why would that be? After your brain is engaged read the term sheet again, the part that says the seniority won't be discussed until after jcba. Getting clear now? Did usapa inherit the Nic? If we merge before a usapa/lcc contract will the apa inherit all contracts from usapa including the Nic.? Getting the picture yet?.
This little squabble won't affect the merger one iota, because you see, the company lawyers eliminated the problem. usapa.
This little squabble won't affect the merger one iota, because you see, the company lawyers eliminated the problem. usapa.
Should the above Accor, I wonder if Parker would prefer the option of fragmenting U back in time and selling of U East to AA and perhaps running the old America West stand alone or merge that or acquire someone else ?
Under that scenario, AA would get the majority of what it seeks and with a significant fence for AA equipment, would be a simple SLI. The bottom line is that there remain many scenarios going forward and the certainty of a merger between AA and U while AA is still in BK is far from certain. Most AA pilots want nothing to do with the U CLA, but if it's a choice between that and the wholesale destruction of their careers via the present term sheet or the dead LBFO, then U CLA wins. A merger with U is NOT something most AA pilots would prefer over internal growth.
#112
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Again, no dog in this fight (yet), but if current AA management claws it way through chapter 11 still in control, that term sheet is dead. The UCC has been loyal in suckling this managements breast and is the one applying pressure now for an AA pilots contract. That apparently being the case, one has to question whether any of the parties in your little soirée should plan on an outside source solving this conundrum.
Should the above Accor, I wonder if Parker would prefer the option of fragmenting U back in time and selling of U East to AA and perhaps running the old America West stand alone or merge that or acquire someone else ?
Under that scenario, AA would get the majority of what it seeks and with a significant fence for AA equipment, would be a simple SLI. The bottom line is that there remain many scenarios going forward and the certainty of a merger between AA and U while AA is still in BK is far from certain. Most AA pilots want nothing to do with the U CLA, but if it's a choice between that and the wholesale destruction of their careers via the present term sheet or the dead LBFO, then U CLA wins. A merger with U is NOT something most AA pilots would prefer over internal growth.
Should the above Accor, I wonder if Parker would prefer the option of fragmenting U back in time and selling of U East to AA and perhaps running the old America West stand alone or merge that or acquire someone else ?
Under that scenario, AA would get the majority of what it seeks and with a significant fence for AA equipment, would be a simple SLI. The bottom line is that there remain many scenarios going forward and the certainty of a merger between AA and U while AA is still in BK is far from certain. Most AA pilots want nothing to do with the U CLA, but if it's a choice between that and the wholesale destruction of their careers via the present term sheet or the dead LBFO, then U CLA wins. A merger with U is NOT something most AA pilots would prefer over internal growth.
#113
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There you have it eaglefly. Now you just have to ignore the other things cacti has stated as fact that haven't actually been.
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Here is just one of many:
"Impossible? Hmm, as Cleary showed us it is very simple to do, I guarantee you a hummel victory will have seeham filing the appeal to Silver's ruling, I'll put money on that. xxxxxx/cactiboss"
I have some more, but the best will come on Jan 1, 2013.
"Impossible? Hmm, as Cleary showed us it is very simple to do, I guarantee you a hummel victory will have seeham filing the appeal to Silver's ruling, I'll put money on that. xxxxxx/cactiboss"
I have some more, but the best will come on Jan 1, 2013.
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Here is just one of many:
"Impossible? Hmm, as Cleary showed us it is very simple to do, I guarantee you a hummel victory will have seeham filing the appeal to Silver's ruling, I'll put money on that. xxxxxx/cactiboss"
I have some more, but the best will come on Jan 1, 2013.
"Impossible? Hmm, as Cleary showed us it is very simple to do, I guarantee you a hummel victory will have seeham filing the appeal to Silver's ruling, I'll put money on that. xxxxxx/cactiboss"
I have some more, but the best will come on Jan 1, 2013.
#118
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I've read the transcript, thanks.
Silver hasn't issued her ruling. When she does we will KNOW what she has said and then we will see what the company does, what the west does, what USAPA does etc. I guarantee nothing in this debacle, except that it will continue to cost us a lot of money.
Oh, also we haven't seen Hummel having Seeham do anything, have we?
#119
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"Now this is a biggie, the company does NOT get immunity, in other words nothing was resolved at all. The company said they won't change the list without immunity and the judge did not give them immunity."
She has not issued her final ruling, they did discuss the liability, so you don't KNOW the company hasn't been given immunity. I doubt she will, but we don't KNOW. I can't find proof that the company has said they will not change the contract without immunity and you haven't produced it.
What else?
She has not issued her final ruling, they did discuss the liability, so you don't KNOW the company hasn't been given immunity. I doubt she will, but we don't KNOW. I can't find proof that the company has said they will not change the contract without immunity and you haven't produced it.
What else?
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