Really? If they had no CBA would they be making less?

They have a CBA so good or bad they negotiated their own rates.

Awesome. JetBlue pilots compare themselves to Twinkie makers and now a third rate freight hauler. Pull your pants up and have a backbone.

Yes but we have culture and an entire thread dedicated to how great JetBlue is.

Meanwhile a captain was recently fired without due process based on a new FO's comment. Healthcare, well we don't really have any, was gutted. Instructor pay was just cut from 90 hours to 70 hours, you will soon fly a 321 for the same pay as a 320 because you weren't able to negotiate. The director of Ops, during the FLL healthcare meeting stated the company wanted to change 15C, after being shown they lied about the content, has decided that changing the document to protect the bottom 50% of pilots in the even of a merger or acquisition is no longer necessary.

Why any of you are considering working for JetBlue is mind boggling particularly when the legacy carriers will be hiring early next year.

Well said. The truth is often painful.

What a $hithole.

JB management just waiting for a buyer.....

had I known all of this I would have never in a million years come to jb. To think there are people that know this and are still coming is actually kind of scary. I would bet if they offered 10 dollars an hour there would still be people lining up.

1. I want to work for a company that sells its own tickets. (Get out of the regionals.)
2. I have a job offer in hand from JetBlue.
3. There's no guarantee of a job at a legacy, even when they do hire.
(I could screw up the interview, or not even get an interview.)

Contrary to what you guys are suggesting, it would be stupid of someone to turn down a job that is better than their current one in hopes of an even better job down the road that isn't guaranteed. (If JetBlue paid $10 an hour and had worse QOL, it wouldn't be an improvement, and personally, I wouldn't have applied.)

Man, you guys must do great in Vegas! I'm playing it safe, and not doubling down.

If you want JetBlue to be better, you should be encouraging intelligent and motivated people to come there to help in your cause. Discouraging people from coming only makes things worse for you. Of course, if you don't want to work to make things better, you should just do everyone a favor and go somewhere else.

Southerner within a week of coming to JetBlue the airline will have you so brainwashed you'll be on this board screaming how a union will ruin the culture, how the retirement really is 13%, how the benefits and disability are industry standard and, lastly, how you are protected with your PEA.

You are so absolutely clueless that's it's incredible you even comment.

We do want educated pilots to join the ranks. But because of experience we all know how baby blues drink the Kool-aid which at this point hurts our efforts to gain a CBA. Add to this most regional pilots lack of understanding as to what level of support ALPA provided and our efforts are hindered further.

We don't want and can't afford the "happy to be here crowd" any longer. Most of us have 8,10, 12 years in already and having the above mentioned settling for less hurts us more.