Dealing with SCABS...
05-08-2013 | 09:32 PM
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Dealing with SCABS...
Have you ever had to fly with a scab
? If so, what did you say to them and how did the flight go? How do you deal with these guys/gals?
? If so, what did you say to them and how did the flight go? How do you deal with these guys/gals?
05-08-2013 | 09:53 PM
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Do your job and be professional. Don't let someone else's past cause you to put your ticket or passenger's lives in danger because you won't talk to them or breakdown communication in the cockpit. What you do on the layover is an entirely different story. If you are sure that person is a SCAB, you could put them on your no-fly list or just call in sick. Good luck.
05-08-2013 | 10:08 PM
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Dealing with SCABS...
These days, people don't even know what "scab" means. I hear that word thrown around pretty loosely.
05-08-2013 | 11:25 PM
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Keep it dry, try not to hit the same spot again until it heals, try not to remove it prematurely, let it fall by itself. I recommend cacao cream to help with skin discoloration.
That is the stance the dear union has taken as long as they pay their dues!
BTW: Try not to put your passengers at risk by starting your trip on an adversarial cockpit atmosphere. If you have issues with it, call in sick or explain to the schedulers that you should be removed from that trip due to safety. Just a thought.
That is the stance the dear union has taken as long as they pay their dues!
BTW: Try not to put your passengers at risk by starting your trip on an adversarial cockpit atmosphere. If you have issues with it, call in sick or explain to the schedulers that you should be removed from that trip due to safety. Just a thought.
05-09-2013 | 02:10 AM
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Not enough sick time to avoid them when I was a 757 FO. My FO seniority lined up perfect with scab CA seniority. If I was Native American, I would be called "flys with scabs."
A scab is someone who crosses a legal strike or accepts less than union wages.
The main thing to do is not be their friend. Kinda a sterile cockpit inflight and no hanging out at the layover.
A scab is someone who crosses a legal strike or accepts less than union wages.
The main thing to do is not be their friend. Kinda a sterile cockpit inflight and no hanging out at the layover.
05-09-2013 | 03:29 AM
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No. because the mechanic's union told the pilot's union it was OK for the pilots to report for work. Now, if the pilots started wrenching on planes, then yes, they would have been scabs.
Crossing a picket line means doing the actual work a striking union member would have been doing. The FAs also showed up for work with the OK from the mechanic's union.
05-09-2013 | 04:05 AM
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Not enough sick time to avoid them when I was a 757 FO. My FO seniority lined up perfect with scab CA seniority. If I was Native American, I would be called "flys with scabs."
A scab is someone who ... accepts less than union wages. The main thing to do is not be their friend. Kinda a sterile cockpit inflight and no hanging out at the layover.
A scab is someone who ... accepts less than union wages. The main thing to do is not be their friend. Kinda a sterile cockpit inflight and no hanging out at the layover.
As you know, our Union's President (Prater, or was it Woerth ?) welcomed the Continental scabs back into the Union with cake and a party. Didn't seem to bug him too much.
I have flown with one scab. He was a miserable SOB, in fact the only pilot I've not gotten along with in nearly 25 years of flying multi crew aircraft. He later tuned over a new leaf, got back into ALPA and served well as a Committee Chair. Turned out to be a good guy in the long run.
05-09-2013 | 04:28 AM
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05-09-2013 | 04:35 AM
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Depends.... read Jack London. There is a mindset, that is anti capitalist, that says you don't keep undercutting... when does it end? And we see this talk on this forum.. about the race to the bottom in the pilot profession.....
ALPA wasn't going to reject ALL of CAL coming back on the scab issue. The CAL in house union made scabs valid members and by US Labor law, when a union takes over another they have to accept all members...
SCABS don't turn over a new leaf... and CAL ALPA should be chided for allowing SCABS into committee positions.... that is like saying a pedophile turned over a new leaf and its ok to let him take your kid to the park..... probably worse than eating cake with scabs is letting scabs serve in ALPA positions...
As you know, our Union's President (Prater, or was it Woerth ?) welcomed the Continental scabs back into the Union with cake and a party. Didn't seem to bug him too much.
I have flown with one scab. He was a miserable SOB, in fact the only pilot I've not gotten along with in nearly 25 years of flying multi crew aircraft. He later tuned over a new leaf, got back into ALPA and served well as a Committee Chair. Turned out to be a good guy in the long run.
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