Go-Around for Pax in the Lav?
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Flies With The Hat On
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And if you're landing on a runway where stopping distance is marginal/critical i.e. SNA or someplace like that?
But how about if you're on short final going into Aspen? Would anyone go around there? For this?? A low altitude go-around at ASE is something of an emergency maneuver in-and-of itself.
Really, really depends on the situation. If you're going to put the safety of the passengers and the plane into jeopordy by going around, yes landing becomes something of a no-brainer at that point.
But how about if you're on short final going into Aspen? Would anyone go around there? For this?? A low altitude go-around at ASE is something of an emergency maneuver in-and-of itself.
Really, really depends on the situation. If you're going to put the safety of the passengers and the plane into jeopordy by going around, yes landing becomes something of a no-brainer at that point.
In this scenario a person disregard signage and cabin crew instruction. This occurrence should have never been brought to anyone's attention on short final—and on those grounds it is immaterial. It might as well not exist and should not alter the level of risk the aircraft is exposed to.
I would opt to land with "appropriate" braking over a go around. The merits of avoiding a more dangerous go around maneuver by landing are certainly defensible.
#63
FA shouldn't have suggested a go-around, BUT made the right call to let the pilots know. If they didn't and someone reported it to the company/FAA, their ass would be in a sling. The most they can do it call up front....you guys take it from there. (Unfortunately much of this is just covering one's ass.) 

#64
FA shouldn't have suggested a go-around, BUT made the right call to let the pilots know. If they didn't and someone reported it to the company/FAA, their ass would be in a sling. The most they can do it call up front....you guys take it from there. (Unfortunately much of this is just covering one's ass.) 

Calling the flight deck under sterile conditions is a clear violation of FARs (exception emergency), but a violation in my opinion it is not whilst landing with rouge passenger who unlawfully left his or her seat.
You don't know the specific conditions the aircraft is operating in. You don't know how busy or hazardous it is. You don't know how incredibly challenging the approach is, or how life sucks for us right now just keeping speed or avoiding traffic or trying to slow or configure or listen or respond or just stay in control.
Yes, I've seen it. ATC of late has know idea about the laws of physics lately or that airplanes need distance and time to descend and slow.
But then again, we may be on approach to Slowtown, USA where there are no challenges.
But how would you know? You DON'T. You would just be happy to ring the phone regardleless of the phase of flight, chewing your nails on what the FAA might think and cover your A$$.
I say the He// with that. Don't bother us and YOU deal with it. That's what you've been trained for. And don't worry about covering your A$$ you've done nothing wrong either. But we ain't on a taxiway, and we ain't at the gate. We are on approach. It's different now.
And no, as far as I'm concerned its not an emergency. No more than a pax getting up during moderate turbulence in flight with the seatbelt sign on. Write it up after the fact. Inform not enforce. But don't call me on short final unless we're on fire.
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