Any Truth to this old TWA fable?
05-31-2013 | 02:01 AM
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From: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
my trip down memory lane, watching the last of the big props slide into Kennedy on the Canarsie approach when I was a very young kid in the mid 60's, I remember watching a Super Connie rumble overhead with no.3 feathered(*&&(%^ turbo compounds),and speaking of TWA,nothing was louder or smokier than the CV880,its scream pierced your soul at 500'agl,those first generation jets rocked the house !!!
05-31-2013 | 02:15 AM
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If you're trying to visually ID and kill the guy with papas and guns, then yes it is a tough problem. BVR weapons free with current weapons, not so hard.
Papas, for the uninitiated =early generation heat-seeking missile, had to be shot from almost directly behind, very short range
Papas, for the uninitiated =early generation heat-seeking missile, had to be shot from almost directly behind, very short range
Ahh the Glory days when a Fighter Pilot had to earn the Kill.
05-31-2013 | 04:52 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Yes I am a Pirate
200 years too late
The cannons don't thunder
there's nothing to plunder
I'm an over forty victim of fate
arriving too late, arriving too late
Mother mother ocean
after all these years I've found
The chief occupational hazard is (that)
the occupation just aint around
Have no idea if Jimmy Buffet was thinking of aviation when he wrote his lament to turning 40, but he sure could have.
05-31-2013 | 05:11 AM
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Anything could get into a firing solution, especially carrying an AIM-54 - - JUST GET OUT IN FRONT POINTING AT IT! 
Of course intercept doesn't nescessarily mean join up in formation - that is just one type of intercept.
Yes - BB seemed to be talking about testing F-14s coming off the production line - but *intercepting* anything didn't require launching from the mainland for the mighty Turkey.
Not sure what you meant about supersonic intercepts being very difficult to run to a firing solution. In what way?
Of course intercept doesn't nescessarily mean join up in formation - that is just one type of intercept.
Yes - BB seemed to be talking about testing F-14s coming off the production line - but *intercepting* anything didn't require launching from the mainland for the mighty Turkey.
Not sure what you meant about supersonic intercepts being very difficult to run to a firing solution. In what way?
05-31-2013 | 05:22 AM
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05-31-2013 | 05:53 AM
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05-31-2013 | 06:19 AM
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When you have a target coming at you at Mach 2.2 and 60,000 plus feet the solution window for a valid shot is very small. Even a small course change by the target may make a solution impossible. The window is probably 95 percent smaller then for a shot at a mach 1 target at 40,000 feet.
95% smaller shot opportunity? Well that is a statistic that I was never trained on so I'll leave that one alone other than to say....hummm.
But back on topic slight at least....
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Indeed, a case of union busting by ALPA. I flew with a lot of those PFEs, who got their pilot's licenses and had a special code on their DOH. Many were good pilots, too. One could not make a bad landing on 727.
GF
Indeed, a case of union busting by ALPA. I flew with a lot of those PFEs, who got their pilot's licenses and had a special code on their DOH. Many were good pilots, too. One could not make a bad landing on 727.
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If I read this right - and in its most simplistic terms - one union helped break a strike by another union?
05-31-2013 | 06:43 AM
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There are definitely periods in aviation that will always stand apart. As a small example; I am greatful that I got to experience watching some Thunderbirds performances flying F-100 C’s when the 60’s started.
The second half of the 50’s and first half of the 60’s decades are special to me as I consider these the prime time periods for parameters (speed and altitude) that were established (especially in fighter aircraft) at Edwards that are still the current params used by today’s fighter aircraft.
The second half of the 50’s and first half of the 60’s decades are special to me as I consider these the prime time periods for parameters (speed and altitude) that were established (especially in fighter aircraft) at Edwards that are still the current params used by today’s fighter aircraft.
05-31-2013 | 07:36 AM
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I don't think they helped break the strike, they broke the strike. We had a number of former EAL FEs at Seaboard World. At one of my furlough jobs we had two DC8 crews. Both Captains were retired EAL, one was the long term MEC Chairman. Both FEs were former EAL. One had crossed the FEIA picket line. He was also over age 60 and had retired as a EAL pilot. The other FE was much younger and refused the offer to cross and be put on the pilot seniority list. Rather than being at EAL as a Captain he was at a Dominican airline as a FE. The job would only last one year. It gets easier after airline #10!
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