Jetblue "3A" decision.
05-30-2013 | 10:14 PM
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I am hearing somewhere around 50 million as a result of only the 2007 claims, it would have been in the neighborhood of 300 million if the 2009 claims where allowed. I wonder if this will have an affect on the compensation review?
05-30-2013 | 11:58 PM
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The airline and the legal firm have to agree on a forensic accountant to come in and make that determination. There is quite a bit of work to do. It's not just retro pay but also medial leaves, disability payments 401k contributions. Lost I stuff above our pay grades.
05-31-2013 | 05:29 AM
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I don't believe so, but now I understand why they want to seperate 190 and 320 pilots from the big umbrella of pay raises. I'm hoping everyone sticks together on it, as well as the other issues.
05-31-2013 | 05:57 AM
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Not exactly. The claim never applied to 190 FO's as the suit was based of their pay. Of roughly 1400 eligible pilots almost 1000 signed on. Those that did not were mostly pro-management types.
As far as sticking together there isn't much 3A pilots can do. The company lost, made it clear to the arbitrator they would not make the remaining pilots whole. This pilot group has been divided long before 3A. I suppose we will all see what the airlines response is in the coming weeks.
As far as sticking together there isn't much 3A pilots can do. The company lost, made it clear to the arbitrator they would not make the remaining pilots whole. This pilot group has been divided long before 3A. I suppose we will all see what the airlines response is in the coming weeks.
05-31-2013 | 05:58 AM
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There is considerable incentive these days to create scary rumors between pilots, I won't believe all the sky is falling crap until I see it in a proposal or it is spoken or written in a public message from the PVC or the company. I have just seen too many things turn out to be BS made up crap.
05-31-2013 | 11:29 AM
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Where are you getting this from. Just a few calls ago, Rob said the company had no desire to de-couple the E90-A320 pay.
There is considerable incentive these days to create scary rumors between pilots, I won't believe all the sky is falling crap until I see it in a proposal or it is spoken or written in a public message from the PVC or the company. I have just seen too many things turn out to be BS made up crap.
There is considerable incentive these days to create scary rumors between pilots, I won't believe all the sky is falling crap until I see it in a proposal or it is spoken or written in a public message from the PVC or the company. I have just seen too many things turn out to be BS made up crap.
When members of the PAR/PVC, or whatever acronym it is were in the crewroom last week speaking about company negotiations, pay raises, etc, one of the issues written on a piece of paper and hanging up for everyone to see was pay separation between 190 and 320. Maybe I mis-interpreted but when I asked about it, I was told the company wanted to seperate the two, so that one group could get a pay increase and not the other if need warranted based on the equipment you are flying. Maybe I misunderstood that so if someone has factual info about what that meant then please speak up.
05-31-2013 | 12:18 PM
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Keep this in mind. JetBlue intends to present some fairly rediculous proposals. The hope is the PVC will later accept something that sounds "reasonable". For this very reason the PVC decided to install the PST. Those pilots go in, present the PVC proposal and then walk out.
Much of what you will here is outlandish and, believe me, the PVC isn't buying it. They are acutely aware of what is and is not industry standard.
Much of what you will here is outlandish and, believe me, the PVC isn't buying it. They are acutely aware of what is and is not industry standard.
05-31-2013 | 03:43 PM
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Keep this in mind. JetBlue intends to present some fairly rediculous proposals. The hope is the PVC will later accept something that sounds "reasonable". For this very reason the PVC decided to install the PST. Those pilots go in, present the PVC proposal and then walk out.
Much of what you will here is outlandish and, believe me, the PVC isn't buying it. They are acutely aware of what is and is not industry standard.
Much of what you will here is outlandish and, believe me, the PVC isn't buying it. They are acutely aware of what is and is not industry standard.
06-01-2013 | 04:41 AM
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Ahh, the "ANTI" types. Your conspiracy theories revealed. BlueDriver, Benzobait is a lost cause. He's turned - zombie style. BD I too believe there is no conspiracy, and I too look toward the "truth mills" not rumor for appropriate information.
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