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#2161
I believe what he is referring too is he had 4 Letters of Rec from Delta pilots in his Airline Apps Addendum, but none of those pilots sent in an internal rec to the Pilot Selection Team via their delta.com email that will get your application pulled and looked at.
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#2162
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From: A330 FO
Delta CJO
121 regional captain (recent upgrade)
TT 4,700
SIC TURBINE 3,400
PIC TURBINE 108
no checkride fails ever
0 internal recs
Airline App letters of recommendation from Delta pilots: 4
2 speeding tickets (BOTH MORE THAN 7 YEARS AGO)
1 Juvenile stupidity arrest (did community service & learned my lesson)
WIA 2015 NGPA 2016
one fix-it email FEB -2016 (neglected to update my medical date)
B.S. aviation degree - 3.9 college GPA
moderate volunteer experience
interview prep: AeroCrew and RST
Thankful for the opportunity to work for my # 1 choice. Can't wait to get started!
121 regional captain (recent upgrade)
TT 4,700
SIC TURBINE 3,400
PIC TURBINE 108
no checkride fails ever
0 internal recs
Airline App letters of recommendation from Delta pilots: 4
2 speeding tickets (BOTH MORE THAN 7 YEARS AGO)
1 Juvenile stupidity arrest (did community service & learned my lesson)
WIA 2015 NGPA 2016
one fix-it email FEB -2016 (neglected to update my medical date)
B.S. aviation degree - 3.9 college GPA
moderate volunteer experience
interview prep: AeroCrew and RST
Thankful for the opportunity to work for my # 1 choice. Can't wait to get started!
#2163
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Maybe you can give that guy with a 4.0 GPA and 13,000 hours an internal recommendation so he doesn't have to go to a job fair. I am just be sarcastic at the hiring practices not you. It's actually pretty awesome you made it and should have a great career! The 55 year old is being discriminated against by a computer so it's o.k. and legal.
Until Delta makes their tier and scoring systems completely public and transparent, which will never happen of course, all that can be discussed as to why someone of such high experience can't get a call are theories and conjecture.
#2164
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No new type rating. I tried to check as many boxes as I could to make up for my low time. Something worked, still not exactly sure what...
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I believe what he is referring too is he had 4 Letters of Rec from Delta pilots in his Airline Apps Addendum, but none of those pilots sent in an internal rec to the Pilot Selection Team via their delta.com email that will get your application pulled and looked at.
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I've heard crazy stories from guys that made very stupid mistakes on their apps that cost them many months/years in seniority. I know you're pulling for the guy - I am, too - but there's a very high probability there's a reason or reasons other than his age and high flight time for his no-calls.
#2167
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Joined: Jul 2016
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Delta CJO
121 regional captain (recent upgrade)
TT 4,700
SIC TURBINE 3,400
PIC TURBINE 108
no checkride fails ever
0 internal recs
Airline App letters of recommendation from Delta pilots: 4
2 speeding tickets (BOTH MORE THAN 7 YEARS AGO)
1 Juvenile stupidity arrest (did community service & learned my lesson)
WIA 2015 NGPA 2016
one fix-it email FEB -2016 (neglected to update my medical date)
B.S. aviation degree - 3.9 college GPA
moderate volunteer experience
interview prep: AeroCrew and RST
Thankful for the opportunity to work for my # 1 choice. Can't wait to get started!
121 regional captain (recent upgrade)
TT 4,700
SIC TURBINE 3,400
PIC TURBINE 108
no checkride fails ever
0 internal recs
Airline App letters of recommendation from Delta pilots: 4
2 speeding tickets (BOTH MORE THAN 7 YEARS AGO)
1 Juvenile stupidity arrest (did community service & learned my lesson)
WIA 2015 NGPA 2016
one fix-it email FEB -2016 (neglected to update my medical date)
B.S. aviation degree - 3.9 college GPA
moderate volunteer experience
interview prep: AeroCrew and RST
Thankful for the opportunity to work for my # 1 choice. Can't wait to get started!
Last edited by airlinepilotguy; 09-10-2016 at 03:49 PM.
#2170
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From: B737CA
If you are a higher time regional captain and you haven't been called, don't despair. Average civilian newhire at my SWA class had anywhere from 7,000 to 15,000 hours.
If you aren't getting called, don't despair, but take some time to reflect on what's going on.
How many of us are lazy and don't take time to put precise numbers on the pilot application? Does your application say you have 12000 hours total time, 4000 turbine PIC? Really? Are you sure it's not 11,925 and 4,058 as EMB-145 captain? Get your logbook totals added up correctly and accurately.
Did you correctly indicate when your last flight was after you last updated your flight time?
Is your application complete with full 10 year background check? Do NOT rely on the application system checkers - make sure it's all covered.
What is your listed availability date? 2 weeks notice? Specific date 3 months from now? I'd pick a date 3 months from time you update.
Did you update your medical date on your application?
Did you list any volunteerism?
Two things to remember gents:
Your application is scored by a COMPUTER PROGRAM, and it is that program that selects you for the next stage. That means you need to have your i's dotted and t's crossed correctly. If you don't, your application will be disregarded as incomplete or with errors by the system, and you won't get called.
Once you think you have it corrected, ask a friend or pay a service provider to look your application over. Paying $100 or whatever it costs for app review is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.
Hope this helps.
If you aren't getting called, don't despair, but take some time to reflect on what's going on.
How many of us are lazy and don't take time to put precise numbers on the pilot application? Does your application say you have 12000 hours total time, 4000 turbine PIC? Really? Are you sure it's not 11,925 and 4,058 as EMB-145 captain? Get your logbook totals added up correctly and accurately.
Did you correctly indicate when your last flight was after you last updated your flight time?
Is your application complete with full 10 year background check? Do NOT rely on the application system checkers - make sure it's all covered.
What is your listed availability date? 2 weeks notice? Specific date 3 months from now? I'd pick a date 3 months from time you update.
Did you update your medical date on your application?
Did you list any volunteerism?
Two things to remember gents:
Your application is scored by a COMPUTER PROGRAM, and it is that program that selects you for the next stage. That means you need to have your i's dotted and t's crossed correctly. If you don't, your application will be disregarded as incomplete or with errors by the system, and you won't get called.
Once you think you have it corrected, ask a friend or pay a service provider to look your application over. Paying $100 or whatever it costs for app review is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.
Hope this helps.
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