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11-04-2016, 11:52 AM
#2241
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,676
Originally Posted by Sliceback
I'd disagree. After X thousand hrs in the same airplane, same seat, and the same type of flying, the learning curve flattens out. If there's significant opportunities ahead, CP, CKA, union leadership, I'd stay. Otherwise, IMO, they can push their learning curve and consider long haul international wide body flying.
There are things learned in all forms of aviation. Doing the same thing, again and again, when there are other challenges available, is something the majors are concerned about. Lack of exposure to challenges, or training, is a prognosticator of future training problems.
This isn't a call for irrational, or hard to justify, job hoping. Laterally moves, that don't make sense, will invite additional scrutiny.
There are things learned in all forms of aviation. Doing the same thing, again and again, when there are other challenges available, is something the majors are concerned about. Lack of exposure to challenges, or training, is a prognosticator of future training problems.
This isn't a call for irrational, or hard to justify, job hoping. Laterally moves, that don't make sense, will invite additional scrutiny.
A LOT of FO's at a former employer that are waiting on the 9-10 yarn upgrade have left for LCC's/ULCC's, ACMI's, whatever. And by some bizarre coincidence an email invite pops up shortly thereafter. Some HAVE made a lateral to another regional, for the quick upgrade of course. And in the SAME coincidence, comes the email invite. Of course we could beat to death all the subjective/relative factors that go on behind the defense. Whether it's the computer scoring alogorythims or DAL's human eyes app score. As you said elsewhere, "those that know aren't talking".
But racking up 1000 more SIC in the same plane, or 1000 more TPIC in the same plane doesn't seem to matter. But adding an additional duty or an additional type rating does seem to "trigger" more than adding more flight time. Whether it's adding instructor/LCA, or a type in a new airplane/new employer. Doenst matter if it's a domestic or heavy/long haul. As you mentions, a new challenge and a new learning curve.
Seems to help remove the stigma of being a "stagnant" pilot that hasn't advanced their career......
11-14-2016, 09:13 PM
#2242
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Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 173
Originally Posted by pattersons04
Question....
I have been offered two interviews with two Regionals. Here is my dilemma and hopefully some insight from others would help me out a bit. I have been flying for the government (non-military) for 14 years now. My flight times are:
4250 TT
3850 Fixed Wing
400 RW
1500+ Turbine
1000+ TPIC
2 type ratings
4 year degree
Should I just hold out for the Majors (preference of course) or take what I can get and hope within the next year the extra time and 121 experience will get me where I want?
Thanks or the input.
I have been offered two interviews with two Regionals. Here is my dilemma and hopefully some insight from others would help me out a bit. I have been flying for the government (non-military) for 14 years now. My flight times are:
4250 TT
3850 Fixed Wing
400 RW
1500+ Turbine
1000+ TPIC
2 type ratings
4 year degree
Should I just hold out for the Majors (preference of course) or take what I can get and hope within the next year the extra time and 121 experience will get me where I want?
Thanks or the input.
11-20-2016, 07:20 AM
#2243
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 81
Been flying for the regionals for more than 6 years at this point. Just try to see what (if any) shot I have at getting a call back from UA or WN.
6000 TT
2000+ TPIC
2500 SIC
1000+ Dual Given
I have a Clean record (driving/flying) other then CFI-I bust a long time ago. I do NOT have a degree of any kind though.
Thanks for any input
6000 TT
2000+ TPIC
2500 SIC
1000+ Dual Given
I have a Clean record (driving/flying) other then CFI-I bust a long time ago. I do NOT have a degree of any kind though.
Thanks for any input
11-20-2016, 03:50 PM
#2245
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by Sliceback
United hiring from 2015(??) -
college degrees - 1797
no degree - 3
The good news is it's not zero.....
college degrees - 1797
no degree - 3
The good news is it's not zero.....
11-20-2016, 08:05 PM
#2247
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,676
Originally Posted by Sliceback
United hiring from 2015(??) -
college degrees - 1797
no degree - 3
The good news is it's not zero.....
college degrees - 1797
no degree - 3
The good news is it's not zero.....
Not because he doesn't have a degree, simply because he's an idiot.
11-21-2016, 07:46 AM
#2248
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,229
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Airplanes don't fly the same without a college degree. You can feel it when sitting in the back of the plane when the guy doesn't have a degree.
11-21-2016, 07:51 AM
#2249
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,229
Originally Posted by John Carr
You can remove one of those from the "3".
Not because he doesn't have a degree, simply because he's an idiot.
Not because he doesn't have a degree, simply because he's an idiot.
11-21-2016, 09:01 AM
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Posts: 634
Originally Posted by Sliceback
Still hired. But UA's recent experience is now - only 2/3's of non degreed new hires make it through probation. That bodes poorly for UA's desire to high more non degreed pilots.
And the number has to be more than 3, i personally know 2 pilots at UAL without degrees and i highly doubt i coincidentally know the only 2.
Additionally, those 2 had outstanding qualifications and only lacked a degree.
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