If you plan to jumpseat Jetblue today...
#91
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Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Blue fifi flogger
I'm the last guy to defend JB management, and I'm still ****ed that 1193 of my coworkers were too dumb to vote yes in 2011. Having said that, your spiel is getting old. A good part of the reason we sucked so bad this weekend is that about 2400 of us are pushing back.
#92
I agree. I was not here in 2011, but I am here now. Awaiting an announcement...
#93
Yeah, so you can help fund abominations like 117. Millions of dues money spent to change a complicated, archaic rest/duty system to a brand new, even more complicated, and less functional system. Sure would have hated to miss throwing cash at that! ALPA is proud of themselves though so money well spent. It's good to be a pro.
#94
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Yeah, so you can help fund abominations like 117. Millions of dues money spent to change a complicated, archaic rest/duty system to a brand new, even more complicated, and less functional system. Sure would have hated to miss throwing cash at that! ALPA is proud of themselves though so money well spent. It's good to be a pro.
The change was going to happen... the public wanted it... so if something is going to happen, do you want to be a part of the change or do you just want to be left out of the process and told later your new terms...
oh wait, that is how JB pay and benefits work....
#95
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Joined: Oct 2012
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Because YOU said its leadership it must be true, you really are a sky-god. Get over yourself old man.
#96
Misinformed again.... and as usual...
The change was going to happen... the public wanted it... so if something is going to happen, do you want to be a part of the change or do you just want to be left out of the process and told later your new terms...
oh wait, that is how JB pay and benefits work....
The change was going to happen... the public wanted it... so if something is going to happen, do you want to be a part of the change or do you just want to be left out of the process and told later your new terms...
oh wait, that is how JB pay and benefits work....
#97
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also, How is 10h rest each night a bad thing?
also, so you are saying its better to be excluded and told after the fact the terms that effect you....
#98
As for the second part, in this case yes. We didn't get our money's Woerth.
#99
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Yeah, so you can help fund abominations like 117. Millions of dues money spent to change a complicated, archaic rest/duty system to a brand new, even more complicated, and less functional system. Sure would have hated to miss throwing cash at that! ALPA is proud of themselves though so money well spent. It's good to be a pro.
Your giving ALPA a lot of credit if you say they caused 117. In fact it was coming and mandated by congress. What ALPA was able to do was limit some of the more horrific aspects that were attempted to be written into the rule. Things such as 11 flight hours per day and a requirement for commuters to get 8 hours rest in domicle prior to beginning any trip. There were many other items like this. In fact if you take the time to read the whole rule it explains in many sections what the AFA and individual airline managements actually wanted verses what they got. You might find it interesting reading. Might even give you some perspective on why we need a voice in DC.
#100
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From: B757/767
Your giving ALPA a lot of credit if you say they caused 117. In fact it was coming and mandated by congress. What ALPA was able to do was limit some of the more horrific aspects that were attempted to be written into the rule. Things such as 11 flight hours per day and a requirement for commuters to get 8 hours rest in domicle prior to beginning any trip. There were many other items like this. In fact if you take the time to read the whole rule it explains in many sections what the AFA and individual airline managements actually wanted verses what they got. You might find it interesting reading. Might even give you some perspective on why we need a voice in DC.
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