Abu Dhabi prescreening
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Actually, I did counter his point. There are people in every country around the world that don't like America, including in America. Or maybe you just don't like Muslims? Maybe the war zone in Abu Dhabi is so bad, that the world class musicians and golfers decided to drop by to entertain? You ever been to the U.A.E.? Yes, it is nothing except polite expats, diverse living, crazy driving, and hot summers. I will continue to have my American flag in my yard, and we aren't scared in the slightest.
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As long as we're looking at this on the national security angle, why is it that this is the first pre-clearance facility proposed (or maybe considered) in the middle east? The greatest limitation of pre-clearance facilities hosted abroad is that US officials don't have the power to make an arrest on foreign soil, so it is up to the host country to enforce their own laws. Theoretically, a potential terrorist could fail the security pre-clearance with nothing to lose but boarding privileges. This could allow them to get through a "learning curve" of what will make it through without the risk of arrest.
Obviously this is a worst-case scenario, but how many attacks happened when worst-case scenarios were both considered and acted upon?
So if we took this thought out to an extreme angle, how about this: If we had to choose what country in the middle east should be the first to have a pre-clearance agreement, why not Israel?
I agree with earlier suggestions that this has more to do with $$$ than anything else - it seems that too many decisions in the interest of either saving or making lots of money in the short term with little consideration of long-term implications get us in so much trouble at so many levels.
Given that many M.E. countries are looking to position themselves for "post-oil" futures, how do we know how much their friendships will last (or be worth) in such a future without guaranteed revenues at little cost?
Seems to me the potential downside far exceeds any benefit. Just my $.02
In any case, my elected representatives (whether I voted for them or not) will be each getting letters soon.
Obviously this is a worst-case scenario, but how many attacks happened when worst-case scenarios were both considered and acted upon?
So if we took this thought out to an extreme angle, how about this: If we had to choose what country in the middle east should be the first to have a pre-clearance agreement, why not Israel?
I agree with earlier suggestions that this has more to do with $$$ than anything else - it seems that too many decisions in the interest of either saving or making lots of money in the short term with little consideration of long-term implications get us in so much trouble at so many levels.
Given that many M.E. countries are looking to position themselves for "post-oil" futures, how do we know how much their friendships will last (or be worth) in such a future without guaranteed revenues at little cost?
Seems to me the potential downside far exceeds any benefit. Just my $.02
In any case, my elected representatives (whether I voted for them or not) will be each getting letters soon.
Last edited by swimheiss; 01-21-2014 at 06:57 PM. Reason: Added that my elected representatives will receive a letter. Gotta do my duty!
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Actually, I did counter his point. There are people in every country around the world that don't like America, including in America. Or maybe you just don't like Muslims? Maybe the war zone in Abu Dhabi is so bad, that the world class musicians and golfers decided to drop by to entertain? You ever been to the U.A.E.? Yes, it is nothing except polite expats, diverse living, crazy driving, and hot summers. I will continue to have my American flag in my yard, and we aren't scared in the slightest.
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It's actually quite simple. Why spend tax dollars on a facility that does not benefit an American carrier?
The security argument can be made either way, but the bottom line is that there is no need to do this other than for the benefit of Etihad.
The security argument can be made either way, but the bottom line is that there is no need to do this other than for the benefit of Etihad.
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