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Originally Posted by captjns
Haven't the regionals pilots been doing the same for the mainlines in the US? How about all these different A B C pay scales in effect with some carriers too?
The regionals have been doing similar flying as the majors, but there is a huge disparity in the quality of pilots. Mainline pilots are carefully vetted and have tremendous experience, whereas regionals will hire any one with a pulse and an ATP. The ATP was even optional until 6 months ago.
Originally Posted by captjns
Haven't the regionals pilots been doing the same for the mainlines in the US? How about all these different A B C pay scales in effect with some carriers too?
The regionals have been doing similar flying as the majors, but there is a huge disparity in the quality of pilots. Mainline pilots are carefully vetted and have tremendous experience, whereas regionals will hire any one with a pulse and an ATP. The ATP was even optional until 6 months ago.
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"a bigger regional airline at best"? *** is that supposed to mean?
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"The regionals have been doing similar flying as the majors, but there is a huge disparity in the quality of pilots."
Mainline pilots are carefully vetted and have tremendous experience, whereas regionals will hire any one with a pulse and an ATP. The ATP was even optional until 6 months ago. "
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......Again, true. The proof is in abundance. Anyone with the minimums and fog a mirror has a good chance at the regionals. The majors is where the experience level is higher in the average applicant, for many reasons, one being it's usually not an entry-level job at that point. It is far easier to get hired at Endeavor, Silver, Envoy than it is to get hired at Delta/American/United.
The hiring now a days going on at the regional level is reflecting that past. But hiring at the Legacy level still has a wealth of applicants so the requirements that have been place there still hold.
To put it in simplistic terms, "it's a supply and demand thing"
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It is far easier to get hired at Endeavor, Silver, Envoy than it is to get hired at Delta/American/United.
Pretty soon we will be back to the 1960s, when UAL hired HS students with a private license and paid for their all of their training...they got UAL numbers as soon as they were hired out of High School.
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Shy, agree, regional standards are lower than majors, and they were the lowest when they were hiring 250 hour guys such as yourself.
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Ok, does "Frontier - the international power house," sound better? Not trying to bruise any egos but jeez, I flew to more international destinations when I flew the CRJ900 for endeavor, than frontier does combined, and yes I consider most LCC carriers "big regionals".
Shy, agree, regional standards are lower than majors, and they were the lowest when they were hiring 250 hour guys such as yourself.
Shy, agree, regional standards are lower than majors, and they were the lowest when they were hiring 250 hour guys such as yourself.
Let me educate you. Frontier flys narrowbodies into and out of their own markets. Regionals provide fee for departure feed to major airlines' hubs using turbo props and RJ's. They service the Mainline's markets not their own. Both of which, by the way are real airplanes that require real skill set.
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Back on topic….so they are considering doing this just to save $22M/yr? What's that, like 1/10th of the cost of one of those new 777s? Sounds like a good financial plan….to get through the week, anyway.
The nickel and dime bandaid approach to finances in this industry is ridiculous.
The nickel and dime bandaid approach to finances in this industry is ridiculous.
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