Hogan Personality FAIL
10-14-2014 | 08:39 PM
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These tests HAVE to go. Along with HR having a say in the hiring process. Should be pilots only. Because when that cockpit door is closed, the same things happen behind those closed doors no matter what paint job is on the side of the airplane. Sharing lots of laughs, laughing at the guard police, and running checklists. We are never "ourselves" when we have to answer tmaat questions wearing a tight suit. We are ourselves when we are doing what we do best. Flying and having a good time.
10-14-2014 | 10:52 PM
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When I interviewed for the job, the advice that I received before taking the MMPI was: "As you ponder the correct answer, you should think of yourself as a combination of Neil Armstrong and Ritchie Cunningham" I like to think that it worked.
More likely, they had probably run out of better qualified applicants...
More likely, they had probably run out of better qualified applicants...
10-15-2014 | 03:30 AM
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I'd disagree. Because with that definition, 99.9% of pilots would say that they are great to fly with. No fly lists wouldn't exist. HR is there to weed people out. Wearing a suit and answering TMAAT makes you outside your comfort zone of a flight deck and that's what it is all about. If you just put somebody in a sim and that was all then almost all would be hired based on that. But being a pilot is not just about stick/rudder skills. Today, the people part is important in terms of getting along with others, helping out, being a team player, etc.
10-15-2014 | 04:37 AM
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I think these airlines should pick up the techniques that ADM Rickover (father of the United States Nuclear Navy) used back in the day to interview new officers going into the nuke Navy.
"When interviewing candidates for the nuclear navy, Rickover would, in order to throw them off and test them, seat them in chairs with shortened front legs and at the same time position them so that the sunlight streamed through specially adjusted venetian blinds straight into their eyes. That way “they had to maintain their wits,” he explained, “while they were sliding off the chair" "
"When interviewing candidates for the nuclear navy, Rickover would, in order to throw them off and test them, seat them in chairs with shortened front legs and at the same time position them so that the sunlight streamed through specially adjusted venetian blinds straight into their eyes. That way “they had to maintain their wits,” he explained, “while they were sliding off the chair" "
10-15-2014 | 04:40 AM
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No $hit. Which is why charter pilots should get first dibs on airline interviews. Flying is only 10% of what we do daily. And I still get about 600 hrs per year. I will try not to smirk when I'm asked in a 121 interview what I've done for customer service or gone the extra mile. *wink.*
A successful 135 or 91 pilot would make a hell of a good airline guy.
10-15-2014 | 08:07 AM
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No $hit. Which is why charter pilots should get first dibs on airline interviews. Flying is only 10% of what we do daily. And I still get about 600 hrs per year. I will try not to smirk when I'm asked in a 121 interview what I've done for customer service or gone the extra mile. *wink.*
10-15-2014 | 09:17 AM
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That's why the airlines like to hire military guys, they know they will do what they are told....usually.
10-15-2014 | 09:29 AM
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Yes. It is arguable. Don't forget we have tons of military pilots in 135. I'm talking about them as well having the upper hand in hiring over a direct entry pilot mill kid or someone like that.
10-15-2014 | 09:50 AM
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10-20-2014 | 07:59 AM
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I know they say one can re-apply 1 year after a TBNT reply following a fail on the Hogan. Anyone actually getting a second chance to take this thing some time later?...
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