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#42
I live in Newnan and have found it to be a great alternative to PTC, while life in the Truman show town would be nice, houses in Newnan are cheaper than PTC, was able to buy a nice house at a fraction of the PTC comp.
Newnan is growing too and I think in a positive way, we have our own shopping areas like PTC at Ashley park. Schools may not be as high ranking as PTC but there is private school options nearby.
Takes me 25mins to the airport lot. Traffic is probably the same as PTC. I think the traffic is so much better down south compared to areas like kennesaw/marrieta ETC, seems most people that work in downtown live north and jam up 85/75.
Low taxes, decent area, close to work make Newnan a nice area to raise a family. Obviously even like PTC you have to drive to get to premium shopping centers toward the city, but you have everything you need. Old to new housing, many options
Newnan is growing too and I think in a positive way, we have our own shopping areas like PTC at Ashley park. Schools may not be as high ranking as PTC but there is private school options nearby.
Takes me 25mins to the airport lot. Traffic is probably the same as PTC. I think the traffic is so much better down south compared to areas like kennesaw/marrieta ETC, seems most people that work in downtown live north and jam up 85/75.
Low taxes, decent area, close to work make Newnan a nice area to raise a family. Obviously even like PTC you have to drive to get to premium shopping centers toward the city, but you have everything you need. Old to new housing, many options
#44
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#45
Traffic on the north side will make you faint. If you get in the car, it's at least an hour to anywhere, sure as the first step in getting anywhere in New Orleans is a u-turn.
Bad side is the landscape on the south side is meh. Lots of flat and red clay. The missus and I looked all up and down the I-85 corridor as far SW as Auburn, and it didn't really do anything for us. Pre-fab, chain restaurants and plenty, and I do mean plenty, of Waffle Houses.
Macon is sort of a quaint town, and probably the only place that has any sort of charm...if you can call it that. Most of the amenities of ATL, without near the hassle or cost. Problem is that it was pretty sleepy in 1990, and now it's like 10 lbs of stuff in a 5 lb sack up and down the I-75 corridor as people fled south. It used to be an easy hour drive, and now I'd guess it's double that.
Age old problem. If you want to be where the nice stuff is, chances are someone else has figured it out, and jacked the prices up. You can do well if you strike out on your own, but you need to do your homework, be flexible and roll up your sleeves.
Nu
Bad side is the landscape on the south side is meh. Lots of flat and red clay. The missus and I looked all up and down the I-85 corridor as far SW as Auburn, and it didn't really do anything for us. Pre-fab, chain restaurants and plenty, and I do mean plenty, of Waffle Houses.
Macon is sort of a quaint town, and probably the only place that has any sort of charm...if you can call it that. Most of the amenities of ATL, without near the hassle or cost. Problem is that it was pretty sleepy in 1990, and now it's like 10 lbs of stuff in a 5 lb sack up and down the I-75 corridor as people fled south. It used to be an easy hour drive, and now I'd guess it's double that.
Age old problem. If you want to be where the nice stuff is, chances are someone else has figured it out, and jacked the prices up. You can do well if you strike out on your own, but you need to do your homework, be flexible and roll up your sleeves.
Nu
#46
First question: do you want to be an offline pilot ever or just a salty old line pilot?
If you want to go offline in the training department or management or do day trips, I highly suggest the south side of town which basically means the top of the perimeter and south. You can find whatever you want from Elizabeth Warren 2016 stickers inside the perimeter to "Don't Tread On Me Jeb Bush" stickers to the south. South of the airport is probably the easiest drive and most bang for your buck. Doing the drive from up north of the perimeter to the airport every day will make your head explode.
If youre fine just being a line pilot who bids trips that are >=2 days, it's great up here. Me personally. I live up in Cumming.
Seriously. It's what it's called. Up In Cumming Magazine
To be Pacific, I live in Forsyth County where it nears John's Creek, Gwinnett and North Fulton. We are not that far from Lake Lanier if it matters. I rent boats there, cheap during the week where you literally own that lake to yourself. On a weekend, death by being run over is inevitable.
I can go either I85 or GA400, both are exactly 55 minutes with no traffic, 1:30 with morning traffic (and I have an alternative route via Buford Highway to 285 and east around the loop) and 1:30-2 hours in the evening depending on what time you start. Bad times for either is 6:15am-10am M-F and 3pm-7pm M-F. Otherwise, full speed ahead. You can save yourself some headache on I85 using one of them "Peach passes" and basically travel in the HOV lane for a flexible toll. At a minimum I leave work 2 hours early, for a 10am show, I leave 3 hours early. I'm basically on the road while my PTC Captain is still asleep.
There are a lot of pilots up here (north of the perimeter and in between I75 and I85), but if you go to the gas station in full costume on the way to work people are going to notice you because it's abnormal. But none of the pilots I know have ever said "traffic is so bad I want to move south". If that says anything, traffic can be hell but we all have no intention of moving. Schools and amenities are really good, Zillow will guide you through that process.
I sat reserve up here for 4 or 5 years and never had trouble getting to work although when I was asked once "how long til you get here" and replied 1:30 at a minimum (middle of traffic) I think the guy said "prank call!" and hung up. I've gotten out of trips basically and probably lost a few white slips or green slips over it. But most of the time "they'll be waiting for you and I will notify your Captain" is what you hear... but fwiw they never notify the Captain.
If you live up here you need to live 50 miles from the airport so you can still have a hotel during training. Right where I am they're simultaneously building 8 neighborhoods at a minimum of the upper 300s, it's insane. It's very international where I am and that is driving the construction and also driving schools to have higher test scores and thus driving the housing market further up. Basically, a 4.2 GPA is rather unremarkable because you're in school with some kids who go 6-7 days per week. I'm not a fan of public schooling but as far as I know 97% Forsyth schools meet or exceed Georgia standards vs 77% on average state wide, you basically have some of the best schools in the state... but the state is still... Georgia. To the north the county is more of a mix of suburbia and rural. Basically, like everywhere, the better the schools the more you pay and vice versa.
If you want to go offline in the training department or management or do day trips, I highly suggest the south side of town which basically means the top of the perimeter and south. You can find whatever you want from Elizabeth Warren 2016 stickers inside the perimeter to "Don't Tread On Me Jeb Bush" stickers to the south. South of the airport is probably the easiest drive and most bang for your buck. Doing the drive from up north of the perimeter to the airport every day will make your head explode.
If youre fine just being a line pilot who bids trips that are >=2 days, it's great up here. Me personally. I live up in Cumming.
Seriously. It's what it's called. Up In Cumming Magazine
To be Pacific, I live in Forsyth County where it nears John's Creek, Gwinnett and North Fulton. We are not that far from Lake Lanier if it matters. I rent boats there, cheap during the week where you literally own that lake to yourself. On a weekend, death by being run over is inevitable.
I can go either I85 or GA400, both are exactly 55 minutes with no traffic, 1:30 with morning traffic (and I have an alternative route via Buford Highway to 285 and east around the loop) and 1:30-2 hours in the evening depending on what time you start. Bad times for either is 6:15am-10am M-F and 3pm-7pm M-F. Otherwise, full speed ahead. You can save yourself some headache on I85 using one of them "Peach passes" and basically travel in the HOV lane for a flexible toll. At a minimum I leave work 2 hours early, for a 10am show, I leave 3 hours early. I'm basically on the road while my PTC Captain is still asleep.
There are a lot of pilots up here (north of the perimeter and in between I75 and I85), but if you go to the gas station in full costume on the way to work people are going to notice you because it's abnormal. But none of the pilots I know have ever said "traffic is so bad I want to move south". If that says anything, traffic can be hell but we all have no intention of moving. Schools and amenities are really good, Zillow will guide you through that process.
I sat reserve up here for 4 or 5 years and never had trouble getting to work although when I was asked once "how long til you get here" and replied 1:30 at a minimum (middle of traffic) I think the guy said "prank call!" and hung up. I've gotten out of trips basically and probably lost a few white slips or green slips over it. But most of the time "they'll be waiting for you and I will notify your Captain" is what you hear... but fwiw they never notify the Captain.
If you live up here you need to live 50 miles from the airport so you can still have a hotel during training. Right where I am they're simultaneously building 8 neighborhoods at a minimum of the upper 300s, it's insane. It's very international where I am and that is driving the construction and also driving schools to have higher test scores and thus driving the housing market further up. Basically, a 4.2 GPA is rather unremarkable because you're in school with some kids who go 6-7 days per week. I'm not a fan of public schooling but as far as I know 97% Forsyth schools meet or exceed Georgia standards vs 77% on average state wide, you basically have some of the best schools in the state... but the state is still... Georgia. To the north the county is more of a mix of suburbia and rural. Basically, like everywhere, the better the schools the more you pay and vice versa.
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#47
I have no experience living in the ATL area but I have lots of experience shopping for a house there and have searched both north and south. Please take my comments knowing that I have .01% of the experience compared to many who post here but I thought I'd share since I'm in a similar position to those thinking about moving here.
I would prefer to live on the north side and have better access to Costco, the forests/mountains up north, and the lakes. When I went house hunting up north I found the homes were pretty much the same as the south side, just closer together and more expensive. As this will be our 12th move in the past 20 years we've figured out what we like and don't like in a house which means we're probably going to build. I found several custom builders in/close to my price range on the south side, the only builders I could find on the north side which I could actually afford were puppy-mill wal-mart builders like Lennar that build junk houses and can't/won't customize. Even so I found a really nice home in Kennesaw which I thought about putting an offer on. The small garage and no yard were big negatives, but the final nail in the coffin was the traffic. Sun Tzu said your yourself and know your enemy. My enemy is traffic and I lose about 2 years off the end of my life for every hour spent going nowhere for no good reason. I'd go insane making that drive once a week. No matter how many times I told myself how much cooler and hip the north side was, the reality of the traffic and home bang for the buck drove me south.
I would prefer to live on the north side and have better access to Costco, the forests/mountains up north, and the lakes. When I went house hunting up north I found the homes were pretty much the same as the south side, just closer together and more expensive. As this will be our 12th move in the past 20 years we've figured out what we like and don't like in a house which means we're probably going to build. I found several custom builders in/close to my price range on the south side, the only builders I could find on the north side which I could actually afford were puppy-mill wal-mart builders like Lennar that build junk houses and can't/won't customize. Even so I found a really nice home in Kennesaw which I thought about putting an offer on. The small garage and no yard were big negatives, but the final nail in the coffin was the traffic. Sun Tzu said your yourself and know your enemy. My enemy is traffic and I lose about 2 years off the end of my life for every hour spent going nowhere for no good reason. I'd go insane making that drive once a week. No matter how many times I told myself how much cooler and hip the north side was, the reality of the traffic and home bang for the buck drove me south.
#48
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,233
PTC - great schools, small yards, somewhat expensive properties and taxes, golf carts trails.
Outside PTC - bigger yards, cheap prices, schools so-so, everyone with kids wishes they were in PTC schools.
Everywhere else in ATL - horrible traffic, "I have to bid around the rush hours, but at least it is not base housing!"
That's about my 18 years of observations.
Outside PTC - bigger yards, cheap prices, schools so-so, everyone with kids wishes they were in PTC schools.
Everywhere else in ATL - horrible traffic, "I have to bid around the rush hours, but at least it is not base housing!"
That's about my 18 years of observations.
#49
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
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Posts: 2,074
PTC - great schools, small yards, somewhat expensive properties and taxes, golf carts trails.
Outside PTC - bigger yards, cheap prices, schools so-so, everyone with kids wishes they were in PTC schools.
Everywhere else in ATL - horrible traffic, "I have to bid around the rush hours, but at least it is not base housing!"
That's about my 18 years of observations.
Outside PTC - bigger yards, cheap prices, schools so-so, everyone with kids wishes they were in PTC schools.
Everywhere else in ATL - horrible traffic, "I have to bid around the rush hours, but at least it is not base housing!"
That's about my 18 years of observations.
#50
College Park was named that because Cox College was there. A girl`s school during the late 1800s and early 1900. Big scandal shut it down around 1910 or so(male teacher caught diddling a student). College Park High School was on that property later, after the college was closed. It may now be closed also. I sure wouldn`t advise anyone to consider living around there. It`s a real shame...College Park was a fine,sleepy little town, convenient to the airport. Airport noise and changing dynamics (I`ll let you figure that one out) have done it.
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