Delta and Alaska
#162
Then DL got serious about the great market of Seattle, made a move to become the clear and dominant hometown Air Line there, and hired Brad Tilden as our EVP of West Coast Pilot Hiring. We then finally had someone at the Air Line who believed in DL pilots being able to do west coast flying and started to unshrink lots of routes we previously donated to Alaskan Airline in the first place.

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Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion. I would especially like to say how very appropriate your analogy is!
Have you ever been to Alaska? Have you ever seen a thousand pound moose go crazy as it is swarmed by those pesky little mosquitos? A moose will often do some VERY stupid things in trying to get away from the mosquitos, to include drowning in a lake seeking relief.
Does how long one has held a job in this industry equate to one's level of knowledge? Although I have only been employed here a few months, I have talked to my father-in-law about the airlines since we met in 1987 (he started with NWA in the 50s, flew for 35+ years, retired in '92), a friend who has worked for 4 airlines but never changed jobs (Southern, who got bought by Republic, who got bought by NWA, and now DAL), as well as numerous other pilot friends over my 27 years as a professional pilot. I have also read a lot about this industry (books like SkyGods, Hard Landings, and Grounded). So, no, I am in no way a "legend in my own mind," but someone who can form an educated opinion and make an objective argument.
Also, please forgive my heinous typo of LGA that came across as LGW. I am sure that neither you nor anyone who has ever worked for Delta Airlines in its history has ever made such an unforgivable mistake.
Finally, if I may further your education, it does snow in London (I lived in the UK for 6 years).
Average Yearly Snowfall in the United Kingdom - Current Results
Have you ever been to Alaska? Have you ever seen a thousand pound moose go crazy as it is swarmed by those pesky little mosquitos? A moose will often do some VERY stupid things in trying to get away from the mosquitos, to include drowning in a lake seeking relief.
Does how long one has held a job in this industry equate to one's level of knowledge? Although I have only been employed here a few months, I have talked to my father-in-law about the airlines since we met in 1987 (he started with NWA in the 50s, flew for 35+ years, retired in '92), a friend who has worked for 4 airlines but never changed jobs (Southern, who got bought by Republic, who got bought by NWA, and now DAL), as well as numerous other pilot friends over my 27 years as a professional pilot. I have also read a lot about this industry (books like SkyGods, Hard Landings, and Grounded). So, no, I am in no way a "legend in my own mind," but someone who can form an educated opinion and make an objective argument.
Also, please forgive my heinous typo of LGA that came across as LGW. I am sure that neither you nor anyone who has ever worked for Delta Airlines in its history has ever made such an unforgivable mistake.
Finally, if I may further your education, it does snow in London (I lived in the UK for 6 years).
Average Yearly Snowfall in the United Kingdom - Current Results
#164
Buzz the guy stated that he doesn't know everything. You don't either, much of what you say I consider hot air but I wouldn't say that you don't have anything intelligent to add. This is a public forum, people have the right to and should participate. Do you think that an 18 year old knows everything? They get to vote, not because they know everything but because they see the world in a different light then you do, assuming your older. No need to be condescending.
I knew everything when I was 18. Just saying....some of us do.
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Slight thread revival on the Alaska vs Delta front - from a "who would I want to work for" perspective. I'll be a mil retiree at the end of the year and moving back to the NW, regardless of who I manage to fool into hiring me
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Besides the obvious "go to work for whoever hires you" advice, I'd like to know what makes Alaska a great place to work given their lower pay rates compared to Delta. I'll trade cash for QOL, but is there really that much of a difference between the two? My Delta buds claim folks are getting to SEA within a year....but obviously Alaska employees on this board are pretty happy with their job.
Appreciate any enlightenment.
.Besides the obvious "go to work for whoever hires you" advice, I'd like to know what makes Alaska a great place to work given their lower pay rates compared to Delta. I'll trade cash for QOL, but is there really that much of a difference between the two? My Delta buds claim folks are getting to SEA within a year....but obviously Alaska employees on this board are pretty happy with their job.
Appreciate any enlightenment.
#168
Slight thread revival on the Alaska vs Delta front - from a "who would I want to work for" perspective. I'll be a mil retiree at the end of the year and moving back to the NW, regardless of who I manage to fool into hiring me.
Besides the obvious "go to work for whoever hires you" advice, I'd like to know what makes Alaska a great place to work given their lower pay rates compared to Delta. I'll trade cash for QOL, but is there really that much of a difference between the two? My Delta buds claim folks are getting to SEA within a year....but obviously Alaska employees on this board are pretty happy with their job.
Appreciate any enlightenment.
Besides the obvious "go to work for whoever hires you" advice, I'd like to know what makes Alaska a great place to work given their lower pay rates compared to Delta. I'll trade cash for QOL, but is there really that much of a difference between the two? My Delta buds claim folks are getting to SEA within a year....but obviously Alaska employees on this board are pretty happy with their job.
Appreciate any enlightenment.

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Slight thread revival on the Alaska vs Delta front - from a "who would I want to work for" perspective. I'll be a mil retiree at the end of the year and moving back to the NW, regardless of who I manage to fool into hiring me
.
Besides the obvious "go to work for whoever hires you" advice, I'd like to know what makes Alaska a great place to work given their lower pay rates compared to Delta. I'll trade cash for QOL, but is there really that much of a difference between the two? My Delta buds claim folks are getting to SEA within a year....but obviously Alaska employees on this board are pretty happy with their job.
Appreciate any enlightenment.
.Besides the obvious "go to work for whoever hires you" advice, I'd like to know what makes Alaska a great place to work given their lower pay rates compared to Delta. I'll trade cash for QOL, but is there really that much of a difference between the two? My Delta buds claim folks are getting to SEA within a year....but obviously Alaska employees on this board are pretty happy with their job.
Appreciate any enlightenment.
Delta pays more, has way more variety of flying--from wide body international to narrow body domestic, even some Alaska flying. I'm 99% (and too lazy to do the research to get to 100%) certain that the Jr SEA guy is a 2015 hire.
Alaska is a great company that does some really cool flying, goes to a lot of cool places, has lots of good folks, and a solid legacy.
If you want to live in NW, want as a good a guarantee as exists in this business that you'll never have to commute [far], it'd be hard not to go hard after Alaska. Delta is making a huge push in SEA, but who knows how long it'll last. Or how senior it'll get once things equalize.
Both companies are in good places financially, both hire great people, either would make a great home. I can't tell you how much is enough for you and your family (and holy heck has the pac NW gotten expensive), but with a mil retirement I suspect you'd do just fine at Alaska. I have trouble believing that the "culture" of either is much greater, you'd probably be happy at either. Look at outside factors that are important to you and yours.
Of course, until you get hired by both you really don't have much of a problem.
Good luck.
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