F-15E, New hire to Delta, start Monday...when I left the interview last month, the folks in the hiring department stated they were going to only start calling and interviewing guys that were able to start class within 60 days from the interview date. Not sure if they're still sticking to that, but that was the stated plan. Cheers and good luck.

 

Thanks for the nod. For most of us ret/ex mil, just a simple thanks goes a very looong way. Special priviledges...no...we'll earn our way, but the thanks is really appreciated. Thanks Again, safe flying.

 

"cush"
"never had much to worry about"

you, sir, are a horse's ass.

 

I knew my comments might ruffle a few feathers but I'll stand by them. I'm sure my choice of words could have been better but it is what it is.

I respect those that choose to serve in our volunteer military.

Do I think it's fair to be given special treatment for a second career when also having a life pension and full medical after only 20years? No, but life's not fair.

 

Addressing the latter part of your post...they just played the game as presented. It's neither fair nor unfair. Just fact.

Don't like it? Talk to your congressmen/representatives and convince them to drive a change.

 

You do realize folks who served and sacrificed for fewer than 20 years left with no pension and no medical. No 401k, no matching contributions...

Good luck with your inferiority complex.

 

Nothing will ever beat the "golden children" that joined the ANG out of high school, went to local college for two years, went to cadets, back flying heavies or fighters for a time... bingo, airlines at 23-24.

 

Ouch! I'm former military (non-aviator type) but you have to admit they get outstanding training and fly some excellent equipment and basically are a "known entity". Personally speaking, they do come up a little short when it comes to real-world(Civilian) flying. There is a learning curve for them but they are sharp and learn it quickly. They will always be stiff competition to a civilian only pilot. That's just the way it is.

 

Q,
You do realize that that is the carrot that keeps just some into 20 at all right. In your world, everyone would do what, just the minimum and get out after enlistment? If so, how you compensate for those that spend their youth defending the country? If there is no pension, no 401K matching, no medical, are they just supposed to do the duty and move along?
All I can tell you is that if that is the deal you propose it will actually cost ALOT $$$ more to get people to reenlist/commit to risk their life for the defense of the country.

 

Every year, a good percentage of great Americans (some who know what trenches really are) leave the military with less than 20 years. Under normal circumstances, those in that category do not receive any pension or medical. Regardless of retired or not, it is not special treatment.

By the time an active duty military pilot can resign, he (or she) already has 10+ years of service. I say military pilot, but that is secondary to our main role. The main role is military officer. That job entails several leadership positions.

After 10 years, that is quite a bit of experience leading, something that any corporation might desire. If a service member does 20+ years, well, that is more leadership experience with greater responsibilities.

Every so often, we get to go fly a plane. That flight could be obtaining a new qualification, upgrading one of our peers, teaching a student military aviator, combat support, combat, etc.

Before any of that happened, we had to become a military pilot. That is a long and tough path, where a decent amount attrite early on. It is no hidden secret what that training entails.

My guess is that many airlines are aware of the above. Leadership traits in the air and on the ground. Not only that, but successfully completed military flight training (~18-24 months).

It is not a civilian pilot verse military debate. We are all pilots, and the airlines hire future Captains. Since we all meet the minimums, then how does an employer rack and stack? Go for the pilot with the most hours or the most well-rounded pilot?