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06-08-2015, 04:43 PM
#141
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket
And, regards the ME3, I have never said I was for it ... I have inquired why it is bad, as there are lots of commentators saying it isn't. Mostly what came back was a combination of vitriol and hatred.
, minus any facts other than "my job is at stake." That is a valid concern but will not motivate the public to support your cause.
06-08-2015, 04:52 PM
#142
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
I think it has to do with their take home pay eclipsing ALPA "represented" regional carriers.
06-08-2015, 05:51 PM
#143
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
I think it has to do with their take home pay eclipsing ALPA "represented" regional carriers.
Why are we even talking about the regionals? That's a job no one wants. I do want all regional flying to go back to mainline though.
By the way - you shouldn't expect A380 pay on a CRJ. It's not sustainable.
06-08-2015, 06:36 PM
#144
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
Why are we even talking about the regionals? That's a job no one wants. I do want all regional flying to go back to mainline though.
By the way - you shouldn't expect A380 pay on a CRJ. It's not sustainable.
By the way - you shouldn't expect A380 pay on a CRJ. It's not sustainable.
06-09-2015, 01:40 PM
#145
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Its the newfound notion that because DL is evil and the bad guy, that AS and JB are somehow brother Davids going up against Goliath.
06-09-2015, 03:49 PM
#146
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Originally Posted by gooddeal
I would suggest that Richard Anderson, using leverage gained by the previous Delta bankruptcy, is the Goliath here...not Delta itself. It's just business and the egomaniac at the DL helm is trying to bend his will on AS and JB alike. But, all the cheerleading compliments I've seen members here give him are likely tabled during TA2015 as his team sold DALPA on bringing this current TA to a pilot vote. I sincerely hope the DL pilots stand up to Goliath and vote NO on this TA instead of taking the pay raise. Leave the major work concessions over a pay raise votes remain at the smaller carriers.
In any case the BK reset advantage RA inherited was nothing compared to the cost benefits of a well funded start up at lower wages and benefits force multiplied by the cost advantages of endless growth, further force multiplied by your competitors shrink induced unit cost creep as capacity was frantically yielded to the LCC's for over a decade. Obviously the legacies are bigger, but the real Goliath in the industry is the art of the churn. The last round almost took down a legacy (or two), and while it didn't, what came through the other side has hurt everyone in the profession in the long run.
06-09-2015, 04:46 PM
#147
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No words for the stupidity. Good luck with that contract boys. You're totally being outmatched by RA. So before you come here and *itch about "what came through the other side" maybe pull your head out of you know what. Still moaning and whining about someone taking advantage of the situation? Seriously? I know, I know it's all the LCC's fault that you guys can't get a good agreement. I know, it's like Washington, the other side always loves to blame the other side for everything. Get over it already.
06-10-2015, 04:36 PM
#148
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Originally Posted by WARich
No words for the stupidity. Good luck with that contract boys. You're totally being outmatched by RA. So before you come here and *itch about "what came through the other side" maybe pull your head out of you know what. Still moaning and whining about someone taking advantage of the situation? Seriously? I know, I know it's all the LCC's fault that you guys can't get a good agreement. I know, it's like Washington, the other side always loves to blame the other side for everything. Get over it already.
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