Frontier vs. Spirit
#111
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I don't remember exactly, but I think there were 10 lines with 17-18 days off. Keep in mind that FO's have to bid extra lines for every check airman scheduled to do IOE for the month. So even the number one FO has to bid 11 lines (assuming 10 check airman doing IOE) as they won't assign an FO to a line if a check airman gets it. It's a total crock.
Junior people who are line holders are looking at 13 days off.
Junior people who are line holders are looking at 13 days off.
I am a fairly junior DEN lineholder and have vacation this month and last month. I still managed 159 hours credit with 16 days off after picking up a couple trips. Point is, as much as productivity sucks, if you put the time in, you can have a decent schedule as a junior pilot.
#112
There are only 10 lines with 13 days off for March. Unless you want to fly your line as awarded and do absolutely no trading, there's no reason you can't improve that to 15 days off.
I am a fairly junior DEN lineholder and have vacation this month and last month. I still managed 159 hours credit with 16 days off after picking up a couple trips. Point is, as much as productivity sucks, if you put the time in, you can have a decent schedule as a junior pilot.
I am a fairly junior DEN lineholder and have vacation this month and last month. I still managed 159 hours credit with 16 days off after picking up a couple trips. Point is, as much as productivity sucks, if you put the time in, you can have a decent schedule as a junior pilot.
#113
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Yeah well both at Spirit & F9 you need to credit 200hrs a month to be on par with our Legacy Airbus peers.
#114
Are you with F9 or NK? And where are you based at?
#116
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I was hired Thursday (F9) for the April 4 class. It looks like you are able to move things around to either have more days off when you need it or more credit if you need that. I reviewed the bid packs for all 3 bases and it looked like the average line was built with about 15 days off with about 75-76 hrs of credit. There were some 4-day trips with 20-25hrs and some with 14 hrs. I'll be commuting ATL-MCO if/when I get MCO. An MCO CA was telling me that a lot of trips end at 0830 in MCO & that's a lot like having a day off...even tho it's considered a day of work.
#117
I was hired Thursday (F9) for the April 4 class. It looks like you are able to move things around to either have more days off when you need it or more credit if you need that. I reviewed the bid packs for all 3 bases and it looked like the average line was built with about 15 days off with about 75-76 hrs of credit. There were some 4-day trips with 20-25hrs and some with 14 hrs. I'll be commuting ATL-MCO if/when I get MCO. An MCO CA was telling me that a lot of trips end at 0830 in MCO & that's a lot like having a day off...even tho it's considered a day of work.
What did they tell you as far as upgrades go for 2016 at F9? Last i heard 90-100.
@ cfouriv, not bad for your first month, however lines can be a lot more efficient.
#118
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I don't recall hearing the number of upgrades for 2016. In one of the recent upgrade classes, a couple of them were hired 2yrs and 4 days ago. Planning an increase of at least 9 new aircraft in the next year or so and a new pilot domicile. Maybe out west - PHX or LAS but possibly out east - PHL. I'm sure it'll be a surprise to everyone when it's announced & I don't blame them. I wouldn't want the competition to know.
#119
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I don't recall hearing the number of upgrades for 2016. In one of the recent upgrade classes, a couple of them were hired 2yrs and 4 days ago. Planning an increase of at least 9 new aircraft in the next year or so and a new pilot domicile. Maybe out west - PHX or LAS but possibly out east - PHL. I'm sure it'll be a surprise to everyone when it's announced & I don't blame them. I wouldn't want the competition to know.
#120
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
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There are only 10 lines with 13 days off for March. Unless you want to fly your line as awarded and do absolutely no trading, there's no reason you can't improve that to 15 days off.
I am a fairly junior DEN lineholder and have vacation this month and last month. I still managed 159 hours credit with 16 days off after picking up a couple trips. Point is, as much as productivity sucks, if you put the time in, you can have a decent schedule as a junior pilot.
I am a fairly junior DEN lineholder and have vacation this month and last month. I still managed 159 hours credit with 16 days off after picking up a couple trips. Point is, as much as productivity sucks, if you put the time in, you can have a decent schedule as a junior pilot.
My personal biggest issue is the number of days off as you get more senior. I know that may sound selfish, but with the amount of growth we have coming, we are ALL going to be senior before we know it. It would be nice if there was something to look forward to. I used to get 18 day off lines. Now I get 15-16. Not to mention, I have no clue what days of the week I'll get off. At one time, I could plan on making my kids sporting events every weekend. Not I have no clue which weekend I'll end up having off. Seniority is pretty much dead when it comes to schedules. Those poor turn guys must be really ticked. lol.
Now, I'm not trying to be argumentative with you guys. We're all in the same boat. But let's not put lipstick on that pig. The schedules suck and they are only getting worse. Now we've been told to expect worse schedules by the scheduling committee. So we have that going for us...............
But hey, at least we're the lowest paid Airbus pilots in the country.
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