Frontier vs. Spirit
07-22-2015 | 10:44 AM
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This is true, I cannot be required to fly a junior man assignment, unless I pick up the phone and they are specifically calling me to fly. I can't be JA on a call I make to scheduling, coming off the jet bridge, walking into the crew room, etc. I don't know about our big IROP, I was never called, I don't have experience in getting JA during that event. My experience so far with JAs have been minimal, I was "offered" one, I refused, they went on to the next guy.
Don't mistake my assertion about money as indication I'd like to settle for just a small raise in our next contract. I'm just saying I'm not going to chase hourly rates (even a higher W-2) of a legacy carrier and give up the QOL l enjoy at my ULCC.
Don't mistake my assertion about money as indication I'd like to settle for just a small raise in our next contract. I'm just saying I'm not going to chase hourly rates (even a higher W-2) of a legacy carrier and give up the QOL l enjoy at my ULCC.
07-22-2015 | 11:14 AM
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First off, the contract does not specifically address a requirement to fly if a pilot "accidentally" picks up their phone. The phone contact is the only legal method scheduling can use to junior man a pilot.
I am a commuter and have picked up my phone several times to hear what they have to say regarding a junior assignment needing to be filled. Not once have they required me to fly.
I am a commuter and have picked up my phone several times to hear what they have to say regarding a junior assignment needing to be filled. Not once have they required me to fly.
07-22-2015 | 11:47 AM
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07-22-2015 | 06:57 PM
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The point is, I don't have to be JA'd if I don't want to. The contract clearly states I cannot be JA'd unless they call my contact number and I answer, I cannot be JA'd on the jet bridge, I cannot be JA'd in the crew room, I cannot be JA'd via ACARS, and I cannot be JA'd if I call scheduling to ask a question. Maybe this isn't a big deal, maybe all the rest of the majors and legacies have this same protection, I don't know. But, in my specific case, this seems to be a good deal and something I don't want to lose.
Do the legacies and other majors have this same protection? Seems like a pretty good deal/contract provision to me.
Do the legacies and other majors have this same protection? Seems like a pretty good deal/contract provision to me.
07-22-2015 | 10:04 PM
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Sounds like the same JA policy we have at F9. Just don't answer your phone. I don't know why people are making it complicated, if you want a JA you can have one. If you don't, there isn't a way it can be forced upon you...Simple.
07-26-2015 | 10:57 AM
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I have a friend that went to the fair, has since interviewed and been offered a class date. I think DFW was his second job fair...although I'm not 100% on that.
07-27-2015 | 07:21 AM
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You guys need to reread the contract.
JA is for pay purposes. 200%
When scheduling calls, they OFFER JA. You either say yes or you say no. Period. There's no excuses of why you can't. Sorry, can't help today or Naah I'm not interested.
It's nothing like junior assign anywhere else. Been like that for 9 years that I've been here, hasn't changed yet. Only way it changes is if you vote for it to change.
JA is for pay purposes. 200%
When scheduling calls, they OFFER JA. You either say yes or you say no. Period. There's no excuses of why you can't. Sorry, can't help today or Naah I'm not interested.
It's nothing like junior assign anywhere else. Been like that for 9 years that I've been here, hasn't changed yet. Only way it changes is if you vote for it to change.
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