hangaber

It used to be that Mainline flew jets, and Commuters flew props.

CRJammin

APC uses the term Small Narrowbody for 70 to 110 seaters, which is a much better description to use than Regional

RedBaron007

This seems to be an appropriate term. Thanks for the insight

I've heard the same thing about them. I've flown in them as well, and they have a lot of shoulder room - more than a DC-9, from what I hear - and are very comfortable all around. The smaller Embraers (e.g. the 145, etc), on the other hand, are quite small in the cabin. They have the feel of a true commuter.

In response to the comment the commuter airlines used to be all props...Turboprops like the Dash 8, from what I've heard and understand, were more profitable than the RJs, which have taken many of the turboprops' place. Am I correct on this point or am I mistaken? I've heard that ATR is building many more aircraft (ATR42 and 72), and orders are increasing. I'm not sure how orders are going for the Bombardier Q400, though. Does this indicate there might be a trend back to turboprops at the regionals? Just my two cents. Thanks for the insights guys and gals.

NGINEWHOISWHAT

You don't? I thought mainline pilots didn't want RJ's 10 - 15 year ago? Then again, I rode the short bus.

Tom

shackone

Why is a JetBlue pilot a scab?

And why should this forum allow you to call them such names?

Velocipede

Here's the definition. Please try to read for comprehension. I've highlighted the important parts for you.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary (online edition)

Main Entry: scab
Pronunciation: 'skab
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, of Scandinavian origin
Date: 13th century
1 : scabies of domestic animals
2 : a crust of hardened blood and serum over a wound
3 a : a contemptible person b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms.

Why? Because they don't censor the truth.

HSLD

The definition Webster gives for a scab, is not how any MEC I'm aware of defines a scab. Of all the airline strikes during the past 20+ years, scabs have been those who cross a legally sanctioned picket line with the intention of performing struck work. MECs also have the latitude to define what constitutes struck work to their benefit.

A wholesale attack on an entire pilot group is not only misleading but also goes against this forum's terms of service. I hold scabs in the same contempt as you, but your (Webster's) definition as it applies to airline pilot scabs is simply not accurate.

That said, show me any national pilot union who regard and unorganized pilot group as scabs (in writing) and I'll owe you an apology.

shackone

I've found that only those with nothing to say resort to the 'read for comprehension' personal attack.

Doesn't apply to JB...there is no union to refuse membership with. I don't suppose your definition includes those situations where employees are hired under agency shop rules. In those situations, workers who choose not to join are not called scabs...other than by people such as yourself, I suppose.

There is no established union scale at ALPA...why are you suggesting there is?

Slaphappy

I don't get it.

A CRJ-700 is ok for a regional to fly and is just fine but a e-170 is a "mainline" plane. I don't get it, they are both hold the same people and go about the same distance.

jungleguppy

Truth or facts? You sound like a reporter for MSNBC. From Wikipedia:

"Scabs"
The term "scab" is a highly derogatory and "fighting word" most frequently used to refer to people who continue to work when trade unionists go on strike action. This is also known as crossing the picket line and often results in their being shunned or assaulted. The classic example from United Kingdom industrial history is that of the miners from Nottinghamshire, who during the UK miners' strike (1984-1985) failed to support strike action by fellow mineworkers in other parts of the country. Those who supported the strike claimed that this was because they enjoyed more favourable mining conditions and thus better wages. However, the Nottinghamshire miners argued that they did not participate because the law required a ballot for a national strike and their area vote had seen around 75% vote against a strike.
People hired to replace striking workers are often derogatively termed scabs by those in favour of the strike. The terms strike-breaker, blackleg, and scab labour are also used. Trade unionists also use the epithet "scab" to refer to workers who are willing to accept terms that union workers have rejected and interfere with the strike action. Some say that the word comes from the idea that the "scabs" are covering a wound. However, "scab" was an old-fashioned English insult. An older word is "blackleg" and this is found in the old folk song, Blackleg Miner, which has been sung by many groups.
During "economic" strikes in the U.S., scabs may be hired as permanent replacements

I don't know the source of your derision for JetBlue, but I think most professionals know there are more important issues to deal with than infighting between pilot groups. Have a nice day.