ERJ-190 really a "regional" jet?
01-26-2007, 07:31 PM
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01-26-2007, 08:40 PM
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Therefore, I'll continue to regard Webster as the definitive expert on definitions and usage of the English language.
And, I'll stand by that as the baseline for determining who is and who isn't a scab. Therefore, anyone who undercuts Union contracts gets to wear the scarlet letter as far as I'm concerned.
And as long as there are pilots who insist on taking the narrow view of who is and who isn't a scab, the race to the bottom of the wage/benefit scale will continue to be led by idiots who will prostitute themselves and fly a 100 seat jet for $72 an hour, no retirement and no benefits.
Sounds a lot like B6. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck. Same for a scab.
01-26-2007, 08:43 PM
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01-27-2007, 02:54 AM
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Perhaps if you spent as much effort on your own working group as you do trying to tear down and belittle your fellow aviators, the industry would mot be racing to the bottom.
01-27-2007, 04:44 AM
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So, therefore by your definition, since you don't work for SWA (highest paid) and your working group accepted paycuts (undercut my union negotiated pay) you have described yourself as a SCAB. Ooops!
Perhaps if you spent as much effort on your own working group as you do trying to tear down and belittle your fellow aviators, the industry would mot be racing to the bottom.
Perhaps if you spent as much effort on your own working group as you do trying to tear down and belittle your fellow aviators, the industry would mot be racing to the bottom.
By his definition, anyone that works for less money than the top rate in each airplane type is a scab, right?
01-27-2007, 05:34 AM
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The question now is where do we go from here? I think, also, as much as I love Boeing they dropped the ball on the RJ issue. They too believed it was just a niche market I guess. Now, Canada and Brazil have that market hemmed up.
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01-27-2007, 05:47 AM
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Unfortnately, individual MECs don't determine the definition of words in the English language. Recognized dictionaries do.
Therefore, I'll continue to regard Webster as the definitive expert on definitions and usage of the English language.
And, I'll stand by that as the baseline for determining who is and who isn't a scab. Therefore, anyone who undercuts Union contracts gets to wear the scarlet letter as far as I'm concerned.
And as long as there are pilots who insist on taking the narrow view of who is and who isn't a scab, the race to the bottom of the wage/benefit scale will continue to be led by idiots who will prostitute themselves and fly a 100 seat jet for $72 an hour, no retirement and no benefits.
Sounds a lot like B6. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck. Same for a scab.
Therefore, I'll continue to regard Webster as the definitive expert on definitions and usage of the English language.
And, I'll stand by that as the baseline for determining who is and who isn't a scab. Therefore, anyone who undercuts Union contracts gets to wear the scarlet letter as far as I'm concerned.
And as long as there are pilots who insist on taking the narrow view of who is and who isn't a scab, the race to the bottom of the wage/benefit scale will continue to be led by idiots who will prostitute themselves and fly a 100 seat jet for $72 an hour, no retirement and no benefits.
Sounds a lot like B6. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck. Same for a scab.
Why is this idiot allow to participate in the forum. It seem to me that everytime he has a post is negative. He is part of the the problem in this industry and not the solution. Get some help!!!!
01-27-2007, 06:12 AM
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There is no such thing as a 'regional' jet. They have been used to replace 'mainline' flying and the word 'regional' has only been used in order to allow payscales to be much lower.
Define "Regional"?
BTW, some of the flying we do now on the CRJ is maybe "regional", from a major hub to a tiny airport that never had mainline service. For this they are OK. But for all other flights, like from IAD-ATL, PHL-MSP, CLT-MKE, etc. they are not accaptable.
RJS are hurting the industry and our career chances.
I don't blame the pilots (because I am one of them), but the industry uses them in a poor and exploitive way. Passengers hate them.
The EMB-190/195 is under no circumstances a "Regional" jet and should be flown by mainline carriers and pilots. Same for the 170/175.
Define "Regional"?
BTW, some of the flying we do now on the CRJ is maybe "regional", from a major hub to a tiny airport that never had mainline service. For this they are OK. But for all other flights, like from IAD-ATL, PHL-MSP, CLT-MKE, etc. they are not accaptable.
RJS are hurting the industry and our career chances.
I don't blame the pilots (because I am one of them), but the industry uses them in a poor and exploitive way. Passengers hate them.
The EMB-190/195 is under no circumstances a "Regional" jet and should be flown by mainline carriers and pilots. Same for the 170/175.
True statement...By the way the B-747-400 is a regional jet as well....the region just happens to be the Pacific.........
01-27-2007, 06:14 AM
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When people say "oh, you fly the regional jets..." I always ask them to define our region. Here at XJT we fly from LAX to St. Johns, New Foundland and Toronto to Guatemala (or we used to, now just southern Mexico). So whats our region? Maybe Mexico? We do fly to more places in Mexico than Mexicana and Aeromexico combined. There are a lot of places where ExpressJet is the only US airline serving that city. Maybe North America? Not because we are regional pilots who think we have outgrown the term "regional" but because CAL can't or won't fill a 737 on those routes for whatever reason. Just my $.02...
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