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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo
(Post 1979593)
I agree. I give this ab initio crap a facepalm. Only that turdcake Bonnie would promote crap like this.
Lmfao! Turdcake! Ha, I'm gonna take that and use it.:D |
Originally Posted by rvr1800
(Post 1979402)
The reason it is fly now grieve later is we don't have any legally enforceable contract. If you don't fly it can be said you are being insubordinate and fired. The PEA is not enforceable and barely has any language in it anyway. Many pilots haven't even signed one. The many other places you're referring to most likely aren't negotiating their first contract.
We are the union, we do the policies. I hope we will stand strong. |
Originally Posted by BlueBlood
(Post 1979832)
If you are saying once we have a CBA we won't have to use the FNGL policy, I hope you are right. I am just afraid you are wrong.
We are the union, we do the policies. I hope we will stand strong. The only thing to keep in mind is FNGL is solely for areas where there is a grey area in, or multiple interpretations of, a contract section. So yes, you can and must tell them to eff off on the black and white issues they will certainly attempt to exploit. FNGL does not apply to agreed upon intent to contract language. |
Originally Posted by BlueBlood
(Post 1979098)
I hope that is a joke if not mind your own business.
Spirit hired guys with 250hr just few years ago and I heard they were the cockiest less prepared pilot to ever fly for an airline. A pain in the rear to work with them. |
Originally Posted by EMB4Ever
(Post 1979852)
FNGL is a RLA thing, not an individual contract thing. If you think you will be leaving it in the past because you get a CBA, you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
The only thing to keep in mind is FNGL is solely for areas where there is a grey area in, or multiple interpretations of, a contract section. So yes, you can and must tell them to eff off on the black and white issues they will certainly attempt to exploit. FNGL does not apply to agreed upon intent to contract language. But thank you. You made me feel better. |
Originally Posted by Patroni
(Post 1979854)
not a joke. jeblue is horrible for doing this. does that make it any clearer.
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Originally Posted by Patroni
(Post 1979854)
not a joke. jeblue is horrible for doing this. does that make it any clearer.
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Originally Posted by BlueBlood
(Post 1979879)
And like I said mind your own horrible company business. You guys hired 250hr pilots few years ago. Did any of them made captain yet?
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Originally Posted by BlueBlood
(Post 1979098)
I hope that is a joke if not mind your own business.
Spirit hired guys with 250hr just few years ago and I heard they were the cockiest less prepared pilot to ever fly for an airline. A pain in the rear to work with them. I've worked with 250 hour newbies in Euroland and Asia at three airlines. Most were right on track for where they were. Yeah... they were still learning after being released to the line. Some are captains at their original carriers. Some have moved on their dream carriers too. Too bad they missed the normal progression of flying single pilot freight or charters, then moving to turboprops before sitting in the Bieing or Airbus. Still they manage to find the correct airports, and land on runways rather than tai ways... which some may consider a bonus. |
This is not good for the industry, us as professional aviators, pay nor the public.
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