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VegassBus 05-12-2016 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2127804)
Really? How many inflight shutdowns/fires have the legacys had over the last 4 years?

You're kidding yourself.

Dude, you are a Retired Alaska pilot. Nobody gives a rats ass what you think about anything..........seriously, go hang out at the Elks club and be sure to change your Depends

gringo 05-12-2016 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2127804)
Really? How many inflight shutdowns/fires have the legacys had over the last 4 years?

You're kidding yourself.

You might be a retarded, er, retired airline guy, but still, you should be able to differentiate between the Spirit thread and the Allegiant thread...

But since you asked, and apparently have no concept of the Google function works, here you go old man;

Delta- Plane diverts to Sea-Tac after engine fire, shutdown | KIRO-TV

Delta- Incident: Delta A320 at Minneapolis on Dec 6th 2015, engine shut down in flight

Delta- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/7511...ps-engine-cowl

Delta- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6723...down-in-flight

United- Incident: United B772 at Sao Paulo on Sep 19th 2015, engine shut down in flight

United- EMERGENCY United B738 suffers engine shut down in flight over Pacific | AIRLIVE.net

United- Incident: United B744 near Ketchikan on Jan 27th 2016, engine shut down in flight

American- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/7199...down-in-flight

American- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6937...engine-failure

American- (no shutdown, but emergency landing made due to "engine issues") Engine problem diverts American Airlines flight to Charlotte Douglas | The Charlotte Observer

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/7013...down-in-flight

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6816...down-in-flight

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6000...engine-failure

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/5504...down-in-flight

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/3643...down-in-flight

Spirit- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/3245...engine-failure

That's it. The only one. The only engine failure in the past 4 years.

Allegiant? Not enough bandwidth to list them all...

ovrtake92 05-12-2016 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2127856)
You might be a retarded, er, retired airline guy, but still, you should be able to differentiate between the Spirit thread and the Allegiant thread...

But since you asked, and apparently have no concept of the Google function works, here you go old man;

Delta- Plane diverts to Sea-Tac after engine fire, shutdown | KIRO-TV

Delta- Incident: Delta A320 at Minneapolis on Dec 6th 2015, engine shut down in flight

Delta- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/7511...ps-engine-cowl

Delta- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6723...down-in-flight

United- Incident: United B772 at Sao Paulo on Sep 19th 2015, engine shut down in flight

United- EMERGENCY United B738 suffers engine shut down in flight over Pacific | AIRLIVE.net

United- Incident: United B744 near Ketchikan on Jan 27th 2016, engine shut down in flight

American- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/7199...down-in-flight

American- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6937...engine-failure

American- (no shutdown, but emergency landing made due to "engine issues") Engine problem diverts American Airlines flight to Charlotte Douglas | The Charlotte Observer

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/7013...down-in-flight

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6816...down-in-flight

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6000...engine-failure

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/5504...down-in-flight

Southwest- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/3643...down-in-flight

Spirit- https://www.aeroinside.com/item/3245...engine-failure

That's it. The only one. The only engine failure in the past 4 years.

Allegiant? Not enough bandwidth to list them all...

Awesome. Well done!! Thanks for taking the time to educate that fella!

Plane Ramrod 05-12-2016 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2127804)
Really? How many inflight shutdowns/fires have the legacys had over the last 4 years?

You're kidding yourself.

May I have your attention please:

JACKSCREW

That is all.

Rainbows 05-12-2016 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod (Post 2127864)
May I have your attention please:

JACKSCREW

That is all.

Packrat is a troll, we really need to just ignore him and maybe he'll go away.

Rowerpilot1111 05-12-2016 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Frisco FO (Post 2125092)
According to Airline Pilot Central...current Delta upgrades were hired in Feb 2014.

I know someone who was hired in October 2014 at Delta and just got the call for Upgrade.....Short upgrade times can never be managements argument any more!

GangtaMoose 05-12-2016 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by VegassBus (Post 2127817)
Dude, you are a Retired Alaska pilot. Nobody gives a rats ass what you think about anything..........seriously, go hang out at the Elks club and be sure to change your Depends

he has valuable input. you however sound like a miserable pompous guy. no wife no kids single airbus captain life and still sound pizzed off with spirit and with life. how sad.



Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod (Post 2127864)
May I have your attention please:

JACKSCREW

That is all.


what a classless statement to make. if you know the specifics of that accident youd never use that against a pilot. the alaska today is one of the safest airlines out there. one of the most experienced too with junior captains having 10 yrs on the plane as FO. not like your 2 yr capts who are miserable with life and just happy to get out of their crappy regionals and into a bus.

abbynormallaw 05-12-2016 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=GangtaMoose;212792
what a classless statement to make. if you know the specifics of that accident youd never use that against a pilot. the alaska today is one of the safest airlines out there. one of the most experienced too with junior captains having 10 yrs on the plane as FO. not like your 2 yr capts who are miserable with life and just happy to get out of their crappy regionals and into a bus.[/QUOTE]

Agreed!......

Judge Smails 05-12-2016 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by GangtaMoose (Post 2127928)
what a classless statement to make. if you know the specifics of that accident youd never use that against a pilot. the alaska today is one of the safest airlines out there. one of the most experienced too with junior captains having 10 yrs on the plane as FO. not like your 2 yr capts who are miserable with life and just happy to get out of their crappy regionals and into a bus.

He wasn't using it against the pilots. Nobody faulted the pilots in that crash at all. The discussion was shoddy maintenance, which was the direct cause of that accident.

From the NTSB report:

"This is a maintenance accident. Alaska Airlines' maintenance and inspection of its horizontal stabilizer activation system was poorly conceived and woefully executed. The failure was compounded by poor oversight...Had any of the managers, mechanics, inspectors, supervisors or FAA overseers whose job it was to protect this mechanism done their job conscientiously, this accident cannot happen...NTSB has made several specific maintenance recommendations, some already accomplished, that will, if followed, prevent the recurrence of this particular accident. But maintenance, poorly done, will find a way to bite somewhere else."

Plane Ramrod 05-12-2016 02:17 PM

what a classless statement to make. if you know the specifics of that accident youd never use that against a pilot. the alaska today is one of the safest airlines out there. one of the most experienced too with junior captains having 10 yrs on the plane as FO. not like your 2 yr capts who are miserable with life and just happy to get out of their crappy regionals and into a bus.

Well, glass houses and all. I'll put our mx against any in the industry. PR came on here making baseless accusations about something he knows nothing about. The NTSB put the blame for that accident squarely on mx.


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