Try jumpseating on AA's bus and watch some of the stuff they do. I am talking about the American side, not USAir. It can be very entertaining.

Haha...this is true.

Recall 2 occasions when the guys couldn't make out what the "plane was doing" while in managed decent on the STAR. Both times they just went back into their comfort zone of vertical speed, and pulled for it. This was the American side. However many Airways pilots went from years in the left seat of the 737 to the left seat in the A320...so where is this "experience with particular aircraft techniques" that "Gangsta Moose" says is crucial to have?

"Gangsta Moose" would have us believe that if you havent seen something in the left seat, you haven't spent enough time in the right seat...stories like these kind of take the credibility from his position.

Who does this? Really? What?

I totally agree! We were all new once and some of us take a little longer for the lesson to sink in than others. As long as it isn't dangerous or going to get us violated, I don't care what the other guy does - and I might even learn something.

My all time favorite - DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS - was the guy who would activate the approach just as he got on the STAR, and changed VAPP to the different crossing speeds rather than letting FiFi do its thing. It worked, sort of, but he couldn't tell me WHY he did that particular technique or HOW he came up with it when I asked at the gate. Just WOW some days.

Side note - We ought to figure out some slick way to fit FUPM into the Low Tier pilot moniker. Some acronym to blend a special ALPA committee, FUPM and Low Tier into something that they can't make us take off our bags, and will generate some customer interest. I've been thinking about something around unbundling my services like they've unbundled their fares too.

Because managing climb then selecting .75 will pull engine power back and result in a very slow climb. Just put the aircraft headset (that the other 99% use) back into the jack and take the trash bag out and have a nice day. A gradual climb at 800 or 1000 fpm will get you more for your energy at higher altitudes sometimes, just watch your speed and dont let it decay too much. Slowing in open climb will give you a momentary zoom and then go to straight and level....at least let the controllers see some sort of average rate.

"I've been thinking about something around unbundling my services like they've unbundled their fares too."

Classic! Would love to see the looks on Bendo's and Jyri's faces when the NC slides a proposal over to them based on our unbundled service fees for contacting Ops, dispatch, Mx, gate agents, fuelers, new paperwork, IT, payroll.....,,
Then higher fee for flying it like the company wants us to vs how we want to. No extra fuel, 200%.

Everyone here needs a girlfriend, seriously it is Sunday.

What's Sunday?

And we can call all of these extras - Accoutrements.:D

Unless I'm completely crazy- managed climb/ selected speed (.75 or whatever) results in THR CL/ CLB.... Which will give climb power.....

What's a girlfriend?

I believe it's spelled "sundae." ND is right, everyone here needs a sundae.

Any company especially an airline need to treat employees and customers like they matter are take their behind out of business.

you are correct NorthDakota is mistaken. but like others have said "more than one way to skin a cat", just pay attention to what your doing, and it doesn't really matter how you do what.

I'm all for the different ways to skin the French feline- and certainly hold no ill will towards ND.... the one "technique" in question is just bizarre- but I only had to throw MCT out there just once to fix it.... Makes me curious....

Oh- but am curious about his headset/ trash comment.... lol-

All in good fun kids....

BTW- took an HOUR to get an amendment the other day.... L-O-L....

He is not incorrect in certain situations. If you pull for open climb and then immediately reduce speed (to increase climb rate) Fifi will often times reduce thrust initially. I would guess that is what he is referring to.

Sure- if you select a slower speed before the climb has started....

BTW- no one mentioned open climb....

Pretty much sums it up

He mentioned managed climb then selecting .75m. Managed vs open is irrelevant when no constraints exist.

Yes, I'm aware of that

To select a slower speed prior to climb power being added and causing this issue is not a "FIFI-ism...." But poor technique....

Scope!!!
Ltd!!!
Pay!!!
Retirement!!!

I was being ironical....

Or is it poor technique that leads to a fifi-ism...hmmm deep thoughts.

I thought poor techniques were supposed to lead to a contract. I'm confused.

Lol- could be!

Poor technique is what left me with 3 kids and working at Spirit.

At least you've only got three kids....

Lol- I've made a QUESTIONABLE decision or two- but I JUST read that "pull and pray" CAN be more effective than a condom.... IF your technique is on....

Sounds like the same book I read before #2 and #3. [emoji12]

SLOPE?

Sorry, wrong thread.

VS, etc.

It's an Airbus. Fly it like an Airbus. If the pax wanted a corporate airplane ride, they'd own shares in NetJets.

Seriously, a truly gifted FO showed me that VS, used intelligently and well monitored, can give a real nice ride. I'm just too lazy to work that hard. I guess I always was "Low Tier", just saying.

BTW, if you want to start your descent immediately. Forget playing VS against AS. Just pull the thrust levers back to idle, kick off the A/P and fly the danged thing for a few seconds. Works every time.

When "automated", thrust takes five to ten seconds to begin to sloowwwllly spool down. Manually pulling the thrust levers results in an immediate, and more rapid spool down.

My favorite is when experienced airbus pilots pull open descent to lose 2,000' in cruise. First day on the job, ok, but even a low tier pilot should fly smooth and keep people happy. I do not accept any notion that we should ever do anything other than fly the airplane as smoothly as possible, ice cream eating - pilot hating ceo or not. I don't care if you start flying 30 minutes late for not covering for other people, but once you fly you should do you best to not make nervous flyers uncomfortable. My opinion. This also goes for a-holes that talk about using full reverse all the time no matter what. Be a low tier employee, but be a good pilot.

So if u use rev thrust everytime u land ur a bad pilot?

No, of course not, but if it is out of spite...I would say immature.

Saving the brakes is immature? I'm five years old then.

When is the strike vote?

Lmfao......

Read dumbass....he never said saving the brakes is immature. You putting a smartass spin on it IS immature. Grow up please.

And another week of wasted negotiations. This is getting deeeeeepressing

Nothing good? I didn't expect anything to be honest.