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Agreed! Most likely this will provoke a "witch" hunt!

Who ever did this just undermined our bargaining position tremendously. This is a marathon not a sprint. People need to understand this.

I'm not sure about that.. Seemed to do wonders for AA....

Really? You might want to read this....

Court tells US Airways pilots to stop job action | | Dallas Morning News

I think he was referring to the time the 1113 term sheet was imposed on them in bankruptcy. What they did got management back to the table in less than 2 weeks...

Edit: them being legacy AA pilots.

Ok...I'm not familiar with that story.

I didn't know US air owned AA in 2011..

Bingo.......filler

They didn't. I was using it as an example. Feel better now?

Bottom line, pilots aren't happy and performance will suffer. Keep up the good work boys and girls.

Most definitely Broheim!

Judges can demand all they want. If the metal doesn't move management doesn't make money.

When is the strike vote?

Fly it like management owns it.

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That is so funny. This company is so low budget they make it so easy to email everyone.

I'd laugh if there was a bi-weekly "Podcast" sent to the entire company group. Perhaps the Green Dragon...

I'm so glad everyone is realizing how much of a ****hole, low-life operation this place is.

According to Airline Pilot Central...current Delta upgrades were hired in Feb 2014.

Nothing like a big mouthed CEO to promote pilot unity. Question is, will the unity gain -if any- from this email be worth the massive headache it will cause the MEC not to mention the resources it will tie up.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Anyone care to share said emails or those on the outside looking in?

Sorry. Not appropriate

Understood given the context...

The actions of the AA pilots did help them in the 1113 process; yes. However, this is section 6, not ch 11. Not to mention there wasn't an email sent to each pilots AA.Com email, like on our case. Further, this is going to harm spirit pilots doing the right thing, because now all of that stuff flying by the FOM could potentially be deemed suspect.

If we fly exactly as the contract and the FOM require of us, the company cannot do anything.

I hope you're correct.

Yeah, me too.

Quit worrying about consequences and show some sack. It's time to let these clowns know we are not screwing around. If we play by the rules we won't see a contract until 2025. I'm willing to take a hit for the team.

All we have to do is not answer the phone on our days off and we will get a contract sooner than later. Do you really think you're gonna get NOI'd for enjoying your days off?

Yes. ESpecially if the judge tells us we have to work on our days off. The deck is stacked against us, so we have to be extra strong.

Do you really think a "real judge" is going to bother getting involved with a little jerk-off airline like Spirit? I don't think so. We really don't have that much of an economic impact. Why do you think we were allowed to strike in 2010? It's because we are insignificant and nobody really gives a **** about us.

Huh? Forced to work on a day off? This is still a free country you know. Nobody can force you to do anything like that including a Judge, the President, Senator, Sheriff, Secretary General of the UN, Queen Elizabeth, Putin, Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un, etc...etc...

We were 400 and now 1400 our economic impact has increased 350%. We are no longer as insignificant. We need to stand together.

Nailed it. In the big scheme of things, airlines like Spirit and Allegiant will always be allowed to seek self-help. That's one advantage you have over the Majors.

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Was Sun Country allowed to seek self help? Will Hawaiian be allowed too as well? I'm all for it; however, I don't think a release is anywhere on our near future.

Let me remind you guys that it was Clinton who ordered AA back to work, and Obama appointed the head of the NMB who said (to Republic) no airline will ever be allowed to strike again on her watch.

And Democrats are supposed to be more labor friendly

Well I'm not doing anything any different, so their claim for a "work action" can eat my butt. I've never done a JA before and still won't.

I've been getting daily calls from crew scheduling. This is hilarious.

It'll be funny when the wh***s actually get a clue, too!

You guys really need to stop playing lawyer on the net. The way it works. The company tracks your working habits. Everyone flies the contract and X amount of extra flying. That is the norm. If suddenly the X goes away, that can be brought to a Judge as proof of a job action. Don't doubt for a minute a F&H employee or similar firm is not copying every post here.

A Judge hears the suit brought before him. He/she could care less what the parties are like. Most of the time, it is the best attorney (attorneys make lots of money, lawyers not so much as in dime a dozen) that wins the case. The company can afford the best. Last point, if you guys don't know who is talking about "fly the contract and nothing else what can they do?" that person just might be a F&H employee or similar firm paid to get ammo for the company (see paragraph 1). We had employees do just that for our clients. So don't help your foe. Think about the idiots that shoot deer out of season and post on social media. Just be careful what you write AND respond to. A disclaimer- I never worked contracts for any airline by chance or choice but still a bastard who won cases for clients.

Yeah, tell that to the Allegiant pilots who were told "no strike" by a judge. You really shouldn't stick your nose in where you have no idea what you're talking about. Spirit is the third largest carrier in Chicago and the fifth largest in Dallas. Do you really think a judge is going to force Spirit to stop that service to those airports? We're fighting a battle that's stacked against us. At least in the War of Northern Aggression, both sides had comparable guns, here management has m16s and we've got muskets.

Forced to pick up open time. Other airlines have been forced to do it, there is precedent there to make us do the same.