Norwegian Air explained:
12-03-2016 | 09:38 AM
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Filling a class of guys with 1200 hours or university sponsors is very different from filling one with experienced guys willing to study Euro rules during their 10 days off while working off 30K bond. Sure the 787 contract will get enough esp since u can be a WB captain! Similar terms and far less pay for the 737 MAX; way slimmer pickings.
12-03-2016 | 09:50 AM
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Filling a class of guys with 1200 hours or university sponsors is very different from filling one with experienced guys willing to study Euro rules during their 10 days off while working off 30K bond. Sure the 787 contract will get enough esp since u can be a WB captain! Similar terms and far less pay for the 737 MAX; way slimmer pickings.
12-03-2016 | 09:54 AM
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5000 TT with 1000 737 and type. Only way to get that over here is 9/11 type of furlough event.
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12-03-2016 | 10:14 AM
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Not sure of the U.S. side, but these are the rates for the Europe contracts (based on today's exchange rates).
787 Captain- $11,200 per month
787 Relief Captain - $ $8,950 per month
787 First Officer - $6,700 per month
Just for comparison, WOW Air is paying their contract A320/A330 cross qualified captains approximately $9,200 per month. Eurowings (Lufthansa alter ego company) is paying A330 captains approximately $7,600 per month.
787 Captain- $11,200 per month
787 Relief Captain - $ $8,950 per month
787 First Officer - $6,700 per month
Just for comparison, WOW Air is paying their contract A320/A330 cross qualified captains approximately $9,200 per month. Eurowings (Lufthansa alter ego company) is paying A330 captains approximately $7,600 per month.
12-03-2016 | 10:26 AM
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Not sure of the U.S. side, but these are the rates for the Europe contracts (based on today's exchange rates).
787 Captain- $11,200 per month
787 Relief Captain - $ $8,950 per month
787 First Officer - $6,700 per month
Just for comparison, WOW Air is paying their contract A320/A330 cross qualified captains approximately $9,200 per month. Eurowings (Lufthansa alter ego company) is paying A330 captains approximately $7,600 per month.
787 Captain- $11,200 per month
787 Relief Captain - $ $8,950 per month
787 First Officer - $6,700 per month
Just for comparison, WOW Air is paying their contract A320/A330 cross qualified captains approximately $9,200 per month. Eurowings (Lufthansa alter ego company) is paying A330 captains approximately $7,600 per month.
Even Euro legacy pilots don't come close to making US legacy pilot wages with the exception of Lufthansa pilots. British Airways pilots don't come close to making UAL or Delta wages. Right or wrong, I doubt Norwegian will have problems finding qualified pilots from throughout Western and Eastern Europe willing to fly those airplanes at lower than legacy wage rates.
12-03-2016 | 10:36 AM
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And the Polish carriers pay their pilots even less. The LCC Wizzair employs Eastern-European based pilots and pays a pittance to fly A320/21s. For them, flying Norwegian 737-MAX, A321NEOs or 787s across the Atlantic at those wages would be attractive - it is all RELATIVE...
Even Euro legacy pilots don't come close to making US legacy pilot wages with the exception of Lufthansa pilots. British Airways pilots don't come close to making UAL or Delta wages. Right or wrong, I doubt Norwegian will have problems finding qualified pilots from throughout Western and Eastern Europe willing to fly those airplanes at lower than legacy wage rates.
Even Euro legacy pilots don't come close to making US legacy pilot wages with the exception of Lufthansa pilots. British Airways pilots don't come close to making UAL or Delta wages. Right or wrong, I doubt Norwegian will have problems finding qualified pilots from throughout Western and Eastern Europe willing to fly those airplanes at lower than legacy wage rates.
12-03-2016 | 04:18 PM
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When the govt pumps in $40b dollars, we hire rampers from Bangladesh and Pakistan for a few dollars a day, flight attendants are shelved after a certain age, abolish labor laws, unions, work rules, and public accountability to share holders and the SEC.... We too can have gold plated showers in Jennifer Annistons private suite.
You just can't compare how bad our customer service is to what the rest of the world offers.
For info US based 787 pay
$5,000 a month for FO
$7,000 a month for captain
Plus per diem.
Health insurance $400 a month
12-03-2016 | 06:23 PM
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OK their equipment is nicer but what I am always mortified by is our staff. Our unions have kept miserable flight attendants in the job who bid long haul for the schedule leading to the worst excuse for customer service going. Same goes for the gate staff.
You just can't compare how bad our customer service is to what the rest of the world offers.
For info US based 787 pay
$5,000 a month for FO
$7,000 a month for captain
Plus per diem.
Health insurance $400 a month
You just can't compare how bad our customer service is to what the rest of the world offers.
For info US based 787 pay
$5,000 a month for FO
$7,000 a month for captain
Plus per diem.
Health insurance $400 a month
Since you are so eager to rip on US customer service, here is a sample from the gold standard. Sounds kind of like same clowns, different circus, no?
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/travel/emirates.html
12-03-2016 | 06:38 PM
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Sure have! Something to be proud of.
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