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CanoePilot 12-02-2016 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NEDude (Post 2254063)
The Antarctic ice sheet is at its highest level since 1979 (not ever), and here is a good explanation as to why that is not a good thing:

https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard...record-maximum

The Arctic sea ice, and Greenland Ice sheet have both declined.

Mean sea level has increased by 4-8 inches in the past century and the rate of rise over the past 20 years is more than double the rate of the preceding 80 years.

Sea Level Rise -- National Geographic

Listen to the scientists, not the American right wing political commentators.

There is no correlation between seas levels and the amount of co2 that had been produced.

Mesabah 12-02-2016 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 2254021)
Even Exxon acknowledges the role their product plays in the change. But all these pilots on APC know better than that! You wrote on this forum that there is overwhelmingly evidence to refute this science fiction nonsense, Canoepilot. Well let's have it. Prove us wrong.

I'm not debating the facts of whether or not climate change is real, but the politics of it are far scarier than the so called effects, which are certainly debatable. There is no doubt human activity causes unnatural change on the environment. But ultimately, if you continue down this road, climate deniers will likely have to be dealt with harshly, even if they had 100% proof the change was benign. Why? This video should explain it.

SayAlt 12-02-2016 08:03 AM

Cow farts.

We've just GOT to do something about them.

Did you know...?? Cow farts are even more dangerous than the fluoridation of our natural bodily fluids!

Thank god for the realists in the coastal cities of CA.

California Battles Cow Farts To Fight Global Warming


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...s_3147217c.jpg

SayAlt 12-02-2016 08:12 AM

Returning to the thread topic.......



Did anyone notice that Trump just saved 1,400 blue-collar union jobs at Carrier, and he hasn't even been sworn in yet??



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Mesabah 12-02-2016 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2254225)
Returning to the thread topic.......



Did anyone notice that Trump just saved 1,400 blue-collar union jobs at Carrier, and he hasn't even been sworn in yet??



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The liberals will claim that Trump lost due to conceding on corporate tax breaks. The reality is that jobs move overseas in part because of that high tax rate.

RhinoPherret 12-02-2016 08:54 AM

And now for our $100.00 bonus question:

Is it hotter in the summer or colder in the winter? ;)

TimetoClimb 12-02-2016 08:57 AM

NAI is the epitome of globalism. Trump won on the nationalist , populist platform and for protecting American jobs and workers. If the administration allows flag of convenience model, It will be in blatant disregard of his electorate and we will know the entire presidency and promise of MAGA is a farce.

Mugatu 12-02-2016 09:01 AM

US airlines have welcomed President-elect Donald Trump’s nomination of Elaine Chao as the next transportation secretary.

Chao, if confirmed by the Senate, will succeed Anthony Foxx in the position.

Nicholas Calio, the chief executive of Airlines for America (A4A), calls Chao an “outstanding” choice.


Sooooo, if that doesn't make labor like us raise an eyebrow, I don't know what will. I would rather make more money than deny climate change, but that's just me.

In the meantime the top 1% continue to laugh all the way to the bank.

SayAlt 12-02-2016 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb (Post 2254259)

NAI is the epitome of globalism. Trump won on the nationalist , populist platform and for protecting American jobs and workers. If the administration allows flag of convenience model, It will be in blatant disregard of his electorate and we will know the entire presidency and promise of MAGA is a farce.


Exactly so. Which is a point already made in this discussion as relates to NAI.

Follow the logic...

1. Trump may be any number of things, but he is not an idiot. Just the opposite, in fact.

2. Every single person who has ever discounted Trump has lost. Personally, I'm convinced his "act" is just that, designed to cause people to consistently under-estimate him. For example, he is an absolute master at trolling emotional liberal snowflakes.

3. Hold the above 2 thoughts for a moment.

4. Obama made many campaign promises, chief among them "national unity" and "transparency in gov't", which he did not keep. Voters have utterly wrecked and ruined his party, in large part because of these failures. His willingness to sacrifice American workers for his ideology simply sealed the deal.

5. Trump's #1 campaign promise is "fair deal for the American worker(s)", ie. the middle class

6. See point #1

7. Trump knows he needs his core supporters, and what will happen to him even faster than it did to Obama if he fails to keep his main campaign promises

8. The incoming SoT, Elaine Chao, works for Trump, not the other way around.

9. See: Carrier plant jobs saved from going to Me-hi-coe

In other words, in order to believe...at this moment...that Chao will be bad for US airline labor re: NAI issues (ie. flag -of-convenience), one has to disregard the clear and undeniable logic above. Which is to say, that Trump is stupid enough to repeat the Obama administration's mistakes re: campaign promises, that he will allow Chao to undermine his core political support, and that he utterly fails to see the political risks here.

That said, given that his detractors completely mocked his ability to attain the WH and never took him seriously to begin with, it is completely foolish to think they know what they are talking about now. Credibility = 0

SayAlt 12-02-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2254250)

The liberals will claim that Trump lost due to conceding on corporate tax breaks.

The reality is that jobs move overseas in part because of that high tax rate.


Yes. Liberals already are claiming just that.

Who cares.

The only realists among the democrats today are the ones admitting they aren't even a national party at this point. Which they aren't. A month after an election that took them completely by surprise, they are still mired in denial. And will be for some time to come, just as the GOP was following 2008. (See: Pelosi's re-election as House Minority leader, in spite of the damage to her party that she is responsible for.)


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