I don't think its cowardly, I think its an objective, logical, well thought out decision. I will likely be happier doing something else, thats all. Unlike the majority of you, being a Pilot wasn't the one and only career I ever could have seen or considered myself doing. Why would I wait until I'm 45 when its too late? That would be stupid.

I don't think they'll choose to sit by, I think they will have no other choice. US flag and foreign flag carriers will be playing by two different sets of rules. Of course they will fly the same routes as NAI, NAIs plan is to compete with UA/DL/AA on a wide variety of markets that you already serve. It just won't be JFK to Heathrow, it'l be PIT to London-Gatwick.

Just like how LCCs thrive when the economy recedes, NAI is probably praying for the economy to tank, or for oil to go up, that is when fewer people will be able to afford to travel and those that do will buy the cheap fare.

So you really think this won't negatively impact the legacies? You think Delta will be able to fight them off? What is that based on? Fleeting, historically wide margins on their balance sheets? You think Norwegian doesn't make money?

Like I asked before, at what point, if any, would you start to worry about the sustainability of Delta? 2 foreign flag carriers? 3? At what point would it start to alarm you?

I am being objective and logical. This has already played out in the maritime industry, spoiler alert: foreign flag companies won, big time. What differences do you see that I don't that would mean a different outcome?

 

Dear Mr MainlineAF or should i call you MR SUPER PILOT,

I'm an active Piedmont pilot and I would like to know why is the Piedmont flows are horrible ??? and why are we scary pilots?????

Most of the Piedmont pilots been flying for 20 plus years or more flying the Dash, they are great pilots, yes maybe changing equipment might be tough on them but they pass training, If we are that scary can you name at least 2 or 3 accidents that Piedmont had????? please name one or three?????


Now before the flow we still had pilots hired by mainline and they pass training with no problems what so ever.

Now since we are that scary, can you please with your wisdom of aviation knowledge and expertise help me become a superior pilot just like yourself??? I would like to be just like you a pilot that probably never had an incident or did a "oh sh#t f#ck"while flying.

so MainlineAF please teach me something give me some advise that i can be just like you ( a self centered egotistical ass hat such as yourself) !!!!!!!!!

 

Nothing will alarm me to the point that I would bail before anything starts to change. I subscribe to a higher power that is control of my life. If, and that's a big if, that day comes when I get alarmed then I'll adapt to circumstances of the day and move on. You're looking at throwing away year, decades even, of hard work and money on something you have no foresight to truly predict. I say that makes you either a fool or a genius. Either way, good luck and I'm sure there's countless pilots thanking you for throwing away your competition for a seat with the majors.

 

Take your ability to construct a rational argument and extrapolate it to the performance of the piedmont flows. There's your answer.

 

on the same scale as stupid nor can you fix ignorance.

 

A former airline of mine saw a similar issue with guys transitioning from round steam gauges to glass. It was unfortunate. Those guys could fly the **** out of an old school airplane in the mountains (think Rockies) but struggled with the new glass stuff. Many were unfortunately let go.

Yes, there is an airline that is sending guys who have been flying older turboprop airplanes for a long time and they are having significant training issues with them. Much better to hire a low time ex-CFI than a guy with 15,000 hours of turboprop time. In fact, in my new hire class at a regional airline many years ago, the only guys who were let go in training were turboprop guys. One a SAAB and the other a B1900 CA.

This doesn't say anything about their flying abilities. But we're past that now. Operating an Airbus is less about flying than it is about managing the automation.

 

It is a well known problem in the training center at AA.

 

Have you thought about becoming an instructor then so you can teach your superior pilots skills to us new pilots at AA????

 

Fair enough, we just disagree as to the seriousness of this. I truly hope I am wrong, and everyone goes on happily ever after, which is a very real possibility. However, I am using historical precedent and logic to the best of my ability to form an opinion and a decision, and so far it seems like you are crossing your fingers and putting a heck of a lot of faith in the economic flexibility of the legacy airlines. And again, to use the last 16 years as an indicator, I see that as a foolish thing to do.

Like I said, what specific differences exist that, in your opinion, suggest we will see a different outcome than we did in the maritime industry?

Is there anything specific that you are basing your faith in Delta's ability to fight off multiple foreign flag airlines?

People change careers all the time, theres nothing wrong with that. The fact that I have invested significant time, hard work and money does not justify continuing if the benefits of continuing (for me) are gone. If in the future I will be better off doing something else, it makes more sense to do something else, regardless of the sunk cost.

 

Let's just call a spade a spade. AA/US has some of the best training available. They will spoon feed you anything and everything. Lots of resources available. It's sad to see it but it's an issue.

I think part of it may be the lack of effort due to the flow just handing them a job and the other part is lack of the skill set to operate an automated jet. It's not a Dash any more. I had 6,000 hours in an RJ and even struggled a little with the Airbus to be honest. It takes some programming type thinking to wrap your head around the system.