Some did retire yesterday
11-03-2008, 09:30 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by MJB68
Here's an SLI suggestion....NWA had about 5k pilots...DAL had about 7k. That's a ratio of roughly 1 to 1.4. Start at the top of the list, and for every NWA guy, stick in 1.4 DAL guys. Start with an NWA guy or a DAL guy...I don't give a crap who it is, but I'm sure many of you will find a reason to whine about who's at the top. Screw fences, screw DOH, screw all this crap everyone is throwing around about what they bring to the table and what their future expectations are. We're all one big happy family now, and the sooner all of the pilots on both sides quit acting like whiny little b!tche$, maybe we'll actually have something that is functional, if not somewhat fair. My airline is going to cease to exist, and yours is going to cease to exist as you know it....get over it. Yeah, maybe I'll be junior to guys hired at Delta a year ago. Yes, maybe some very junior Delta guys won't be able to hold the 767 out of JFK anymore. Life is a big sh!t sandwich and we're all going to have to take a bite, so how about we knock off b!tching at each other and quit clinging to moronic, unrealistic expectations of what we are "owed".
11-04-2008, 12:52 AM
#42
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Position: 330 FO
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Originally Posted by tsquare
WARNING: Thread hijack in progress..
Are you a Georgia Bulldogs fan? I heard that Michael Vick is applying as a coach since he knows how to make dogs fight
What the hell happened last weekend?
Steve
I'm still a fan of Phil, but maybe it's time to move on. GO VOLS!
Are you a Georgia Bulldogs fan? I heard that Michael Vick is applying as a coach since he knows how to make dogs fight
What the hell happened last weekend? Steve
I'm still a fan of Phil, but maybe it's time to move on. GO VOLS!
I like Phil too. He's a good guy and I'm sure he'd be fun to knock back a few Old Charters and catfish with....
but.....
our recruiting has slacked off in recent years, we've been in a steady decline since '98, we're 3-6 and we just got our ass handed to us by f'ing South Carolina. (I hate Spurrier, but I would damn sure have welcomed an orange visor)
Phil's time is done, we need someone who knows something about anything other than O - linemen.
11-04-2008, 12:57 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
These assume age 60 retirements so if you want to pretend that EVERYONE will go to age 65 then add 4 more years to each date. (thus far the majority of our pilots are retiring at 60 or before.)
YR--RET
08--70
09--96
10--167
11--183
12--199
13--230
14--256
15--285
16--295
17--343
18--314
19--283
20--272
21--255
22--208
23--202
24--191
25--182
26--180
27--152
28--122
2029-2043 roughly 350 retirements
YR--RET
08--70
09--96
10--167
11--183
12--199
13--230
14--256
15--285
16--295
17--343
18--314
19--283
20--272
21--255
22--208
23--202
24--191
25--182
26--180
27--152
28--122
2029-2043 roughly 350 retirements
No flame intended, just curious as to the facts you have to back up these very critical numbers.
Last edited by Jay5150; 11-04-2008 at 12:58 AM. Reason: grammar
11-04-2008, 02:51 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Pineapple,
How long do you think those "other variables" like growth and shrinkage should be factored in?
How long do you think those "other variables" like growth and shrinkage should be factored in?
For as long as you factor in attrition. If you want a dynamic list, it needs to be dynamic for ALL variables that are dynamic. But I acknowledge that ultimately results in two groups fighting over this until the list is nailed down. Hence its not the best solution.
Look (practicing my Obama), the current DAL proposal shares our projected growth, with your potential shrinkage and attrition. Seems a fair balance to me. The NWA list, OTOH, keeps your own attrition during your high attrition period, then shares our attrition during our high period, as well as sharing our growth and us sharing your shrinkage. Seems pretty lopsided to me.
I'm hopeful the negotiators can settle this, but if not, I'm confident the arbitrators will settle it with something I can live with. I have no intentions of ever saying I got screwed in the merger. I hope you guys will do the same.
PG
11-04-2008, 05:45 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by Jay5150
Lookit,
I like Phil too. He's a good guy and I'm sure he'd be fun to knock back a few Old Charters and catfish with....
but.....
our recruiting has slacked off in recent years, we've been in a steady decline since '98, we're 3-6 and we just got our ass handed to us by f'ing South Carolina. (I hate Spurrier, but I would damn sure have welcomed an orange visor)
Phil's time is done, we need someone who knows something about anything other than O - linemen.
I like Phil too. He's a good guy and I'm sure he'd be fun to knock back a few Old Charters and catfish with....
but.....
our recruiting has slacked off in recent years, we've been in a steady decline since '98, we're 3-6 and we just got our ass handed to us by f'ing South Carolina. (I hate Spurrier, but I would damn sure have welcomed an orange visor)
Phil's time is done, we need someone who knows something about anything other than O - linemen.
Watching the ol' ball coach struggle really makes one realize just how easy it is to build a team in Florida doesn't it? I surely would love to see coach Kiffin on our sideline next year. OTOH.. I'd welcome an orange visor too.
11-05-2008, 05:16 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by satchip
Not enough golf courses in Knoxville for Spurrier. I don't think you can play year round there either. My guess is Spurrier goes to FSU if he lands another job.
Lane Kiffin... COME ON DOWN!!!!!
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