SLI negotiations have broke down
11-12-2008, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Ok, well this list is an attempt, an DAL failed to negotiate a list. Therefore, they're NOT 2 for 2. Think your numbers are skewed. The negotiations were terminated at the SUGGESTION of the mediator. BOTH sides failed. We are one company now, and in a time where the economy STINKS. Unity is more important then ever. Please, let's focus on unity, not division. Let's not point fingers, but rather focus on the future.
11-12-2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You're not talking about DAL's 2 "negotiations" with Pan Am and Western while they held a gun to their heads...are you?
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11-13-2008, 03:57 AM
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I know for fact that I can separate business and personal feelings. I hold nothing against the NWA folks. Hate the situation, not the people. In fact I look forward to flying with some of my buddies that are up in the North!
They are doing exactly what we are. Trying to get the best outcome for their dues paying members. Of course I do not agree with their stance. I am on the other side. That difference is to be expected. Now if someone throws this whole process in my face that is another story.....
They are doing exactly what we are. Trying to get the best outcome for their dues paying members. Of course I do not agree with their stance. I am on the other side. That difference is to be expected. Now if someone throws this whole process in my face that is another story.....
11-13-2008, 05:31 AM
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Why would either side move very much from their opener with another month to go? 
I'm not saying there is going to be a deal worked out - but if there is it will not come until the last possible minute. Saying you are finished with negotaitons with a month to go is just a negotiating tactic.
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I'm not saying there is going to be a deal worked out - but if there is it will not come until the last possible minute. Saying you are finished with negotaitons with a month to go is just a negotiating tactic.Scoop
11-13-2008, 05:35 AM
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I'm wondering about the "two for two" comment also.
Personally, I would much rather have an arbitrated list than one negotiated by Lee Moak &Co.
I think he's maybe "one for three" in his negotiations with DAL management. That's not a very good track record, and as such I don't want him, or his team, negotiating an integrated seniority list.
Personally, I would much rather have an arbitrated list than one negotiated by Lee Moak &Co.
I think he's maybe "one for three" in his negotiations with DAL management. That's not a very good track record, and as such I don't want him, or his team, negotiating an integrated seniority list.
11-13-2008, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
Personally, I would much rather have an arbitrated list than one negotiated by Lee Moak &Co.
I think he's maybe "one for three" in his negotiations with DAL management. That's not a very good track record, and as such I don't want him, or his team, negotiating an integrated seniority list.
I think he's maybe "one for three" in his negotiations with DAL management. That's not a very good track record, and as such I don't want him, or his team, negotiating an integrated seniority list.
I agree. Kinda sad that I feel we can get a better list from the arbitrators than from our own MEC.
11-13-2008, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
I'm wondering about the "two for two" comment also.
Personally, I would much rather have an arbitrated list than one negotiated by Lee Moak &Co.
I think he's maybe "one for three" in his negotiations with DAL management. That's not a very good track record, and as such I don't want him, or his team, negotiating an integrated seniority list.
Personally, I would much rather have an arbitrated list than one negotiated by Lee Moak &Co.
I think he's maybe "one for three" in his negotiations with DAL management. That's not a very good track record, and as such I don't want him, or his team, negotiating an integrated seniority list.
Your belief that the arbitrators are somehow willing to go further in our favor than our own merger committee is completely illogical. Do you actually believe that, if NWA can only come to their 30 yard line, and DAL is willing to go to the 50, that the arbitrators will award something on our own 45? That's a pipe dream. The very fact that we are still allegedly miles apart should instill confidence in the MEC Administration, not concern.
And finally, regarding your 1 for 3, please compare our trip through BK with any of the other three majors that went there, and justify your comment based on the relative outcomes.
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