SLI negotiations have broke down
11-12-2008, 10:20 AM
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Somehow after how close we were a few weeks ago and did not get it negotiated, I am not surprised.
That is OK. It makes it better in the long run. We can hate the arbitrators and will save us the end fighting that would have resulted from something we actually had to take responsibility of.
That is OK. It makes it better in the long run. We can hate the arbitrators and will save us the end fighting that would have resulted from something we actually had to take responsibility of.
11-12-2008, 01:16 PM
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Game not over
All of the good reasons for a negotiated list still apply. The arbs slipping their deadline by a month merely reduced the pressure to make a deal now.
The clock has been reset, giving both teams enough time to run a few more plays instead of settling for a tie....and in negotiations, walking away from the table is a very routine play.
The clock has been reset, giving both teams enough time to run a few more plays instead of settling for a tie....and in negotiations, walking away from the table is a very routine play.
11-12-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
All of the good reasons for a negotiated list still apply. The arbs slipping their deadline by a month merely reduced the pressure to make a deal now.
The clock has been reset, giving both teams enough time to run a few more plays instead of settling for a tie....and in negotiations, walking away from the table is a very routine play.
The clock has been reset, giving both teams enough time to run a few more plays instead of settling for a tie....and in negotiations, walking away from the table is a very routine play.
11-12-2008, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitts S2B
Has the clock been officially reset? The last I read, it wasn't official yet and the November 20th date still stood. Maybe I missed it.....
11-12-2008, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitts S2B
Has the clock been officially reset? The last I read, it wasn't official yet and the November 20th date still stood. Maybe I missed it.....
Nope, it's officially been pushed back to Dec 20th. We have to wait until just before Christmas now.
11-12-2008, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That is OK. It makes it better in the long run. We can hate the arbitrators and will save us the end fighting that would have resulted from something we actually had to take responsibility of.
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11-12-2008, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
If history is any guide, you are wrong -- we will hate each other forever. Just ask ANY green book or red book guy. Arbitration is absolutely the worst thing that can happen. But it shouldn't surprise me. NWALPA is 0 for 26 in their last 26 attempts at a negotiated settlement; DAL is 2 for 2.
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11-12-2008, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
If history is any guide, you are wrong -- we will hate each other forever. Just ask ANY green book or red book guy.
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Arbitration is absolutely the worst thing that can happen. But it shouldn't surprise me. NWALPA is 0 for 26 in their last 26 attempts at a negotiated settlement; DAL is 2 for 2.
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11-12-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
If history is any guide, you are wrong -- we will hate each other forever. Just ask ANY green book or red book guy. Arbitration is absolutely the worst thing that can happen. But it shouldn't surprise me. NWALPA is 0 for 26 in their last 26 attempts at a negotiated settlement; DAL is 2 for 2.
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