NWA SLI Shenanigans
11-24-2008, 09:38 AM
#82
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
I promised myself I'd stay off this thread, but I can't help myself.
I still believe your concerns were covered in cross and are not an issue.
Cog........here is my offer. Lets go through the Delta closing argument when it comes out today, and if this is mentioned by your lawyer as an issue, I will gladly and publicly apologize for what I've said. I elected a rep who elected a merger committee (yes different from your system) so we are in fact all somewhat responsible.
If not, we let it all go and move on together. Deal?
Ferd
I still believe your concerns were covered in cross and are not an issue.
Cog........here is my offer. Lets go through the Delta closing argument when it comes out today, and if this is mentioned by your lawyer as an issue, I will gladly and publicly apologize for what I've said. I elected a rep who elected a merger committee (yes different from your system) so we are in fact all somewhat responsible.
If not, we let it all go and move on together. Deal?
Ferd
Originally Posted by Cogf16
Deal Out of town and haven't seen the transcripts. What was the verdict.
Cog
Cog
Originally Posted by Cogf16
You too Fred. Last beating of the dead horse! I get that the hearings are over and we are arguing over mute points but it still bothers me that, A- any of this is true, and B- few if any NWA guys seem to be troubled by it, and C- how will/did it affect the arbitors decision.
Happy Thanksgiving from 80 degree PHX
Cog
Happy Thanksgiving from 80 degree PHX
Cog
Well, I went through your closing (abet quickly
) and I don’t see anywhere that you guys describe us as being dishonest. There are a few choice words – wrong headed (p27), flawed assumptions (p32) faulty assumptions (p34). They did describe Tom Dolloway as “less than credible” and that he had a “mischaracterization of delta scheduling provisions (p38).There is a big discussion on the differences of the snap shot used. We used 1 Jan 2008 and you guys used 1 July 2008. My instinct would have been to use the latest available (that military thinking thing) but we talk about it too in our closing. We may differ in whether the justification makes since but at least both sides are presented.
It was hard reading your closing. I felt pretty beat up reading it so I don’t think you guys are worried that we are getting away with anything that they haven’t caught. On a personal note, I liked your closing (more case law cited) than ours, but I haven’t read all of ours yet.
I agree with the other thread………let’s wait for the smoke to clear after the 8th (or sooner?) and see what Santa Bloch brings. Peace?
Ferd
Last edited by Ferd149; 11-24-2008 at 09:58 AM.
11-24-2008, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Cog,
Well, I went through your closing (abet quickly) and I don’t see anywhere that you guys describe us as being dishonest. There are a few choice words – wrong headed (p27), flawed assumptions (p32) faulty assumptions (p34). They did describe Tom Dolloway as “less than credible” and that he had a “mischaracterization of delta scheduling provisions (p38).
There is a big discussion on the differences of the snap shot used. We used 1 Jan 2008 and you guys used 1 July 2008. My instinct would have been to use the latest available (that military thinking thing) but we talk about it too in our closing. We may differ in whether the justification makes since but at least both sides are presented.
It was hard reading your closing. I felt pretty beat up reading it so I don’t think you guys are worried that we are getting away with anything that they haven’t caught. On a personal note, I liked your closing (more case law cited) than ours, but I haven’t read all of ours yet.
I agree with the other thread………let’s wait for the smoke to clear after the 8th (or sooner?) and see what Santa Bloch brings. Peace?
Ferd
Well, I went through your closing (abet quickly
) and I don’t see anywhere that you guys describe us as being dishonest. There are a few choice words – wrong headed (p27), flawed assumptions (p32) faulty assumptions (p34). They did describe Tom Dolloway as “less than credible” and that he had a “mischaracterization of delta scheduling provisions (p38).There is a big discussion on the differences of the snap shot used. We used 1 Jan 2008 and you guys used 1 July 2008. My instinct would have been to use the latest available (that military thinking thing) but we talk about it too in our closing. We may differ in whether the justification makes since but at least both sides are presented.
It was hard reading your closing. I felt pretty beat up reading it so I don’t think you guys are worried that we are getting away with anything that they haven’t caught. On a personal note, I liked your closing (more case law cited) than ours, but I haven’t read all of ours yet.
I agree with the other thread………let’s wait for the smoke to clear after the 8th (or sooner?) and see what Santa Bloch brings. Peace?
Ferd
11-24-2008, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Cog,
Well, I went through your closing (abet quickly) and I don’t see anywhere that you guys describe us as being dishonest. There are a few choice words – wrong headed (p27), flawed assumptions (p32) faulty assumptions (p34). They did describe Tom Dolloway as “less than credible” and that he had a “mischaracterization of delta scheduling provisions (p38).
There is a big discussion on the differences of the snap shot used. We used 1 Jan 2008 and you guys used 1 July 2008. My instinct would have been to use the latest available (that military thinking thing) but we talk about it too in our closing. We may differ in whether the justification makes since but at least both sides are presented.
It was hard reading your closing. I felt pretty beat up reading it so I don’t think you guys are worried that we are getting away with anything that they haven’t caught. On a personal note, I liked your closing (more case law cited) than ours, but I haven’t read all of ours yet.
I agree with the other thread………let’s wait for the smoke to clear after the 8th (or sooner?) and see what Santa Bloch brings. Peace?
Ferd
Well, I went through your closing (abet quickly
) and I don’t see anywhere that you guys describe us as being dishonest. There are a few choice words – wrong headed (p27), flawed assumptions (p32) faulty assumptions (p34). They did describe Tom Dolloway as “less than credible” and that he had a “mischaracterization of delta scheduling provisions (p38).There is a big discussion on the differences of the snap shot used. We used 1 Jan 2008 and you guys used 1 July 2008. My instinct would have been to use the latest available (that military thinking thing) but we talk about it too in our closing. We may differ in whether the justification makes since but at least both sides are presented.
It was hard reading your closing. I felt pretty beat up reading it so I don’t think you guys are worried that we are getting away with anything that they haven’t caught. On a personal note, I liked your closing (more case law cited) than ours, but I haven’t read all of ours yet.
I agree with the other thread………let’s wait for the smoke to clear after the 8th (or sooner?) and see what Santa Bloch brings. Peace?
Ferd
11-24-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Why use 1 Jan 2008? How about DCC date or as a compromise, 1 Jul 2008... oh wait, thats what we proposed.
PS Did you get my PM?
Last edited by Ferd149; 11-24-2008 at 12:14 PM.
11-24-2008, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I think getting the list on Dec. 7th (a day that will live in infamy already) would be apropos.
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) would be apropos.DennyCrane
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11-24-2008, 01:24 PM
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[quote=Ferd149;505199]Cog,
On a personal note, I liked your closing (more case law cited) than ours, but I haven’t read all of ours yet.
Ferd[/quote
I didn't like either one - too many big words and not enough of these guys 
. Some pictures would have been nice also.
Scoop
On a personal note, I liked your closing (more case law cited) than ours, but I haven’t read all of ours yet.
Ferd[/quote
I didn't like either one - too many big words and not enough of these guys
. Some pictures would have been nice also.Scoop
11-24-2008, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
No...it's December 8 because that was the start of the war.
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From the number one comedy movie of all time "Animal House." Sorry Carl, "Caddyshack" is number two. And I am not making this up either, they are the official VH-1 Ratings, and we all know how official that is. Scoop
11-24-2008, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
All Americans will sadly remember the day the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. From the number one comedy movie of all time "Animal House." Sorry Carl, "Caddyshack" is number two. And I am not making this up either, they are the official VH-1 Ratings, and we all know how official that is.
Scoop
From the number one comedy movie of all time "Animal House." Sorry Carl, "Caddyshack" is number two. And I am not making this up either, they are the official VH-1 Ratings, and we all know how official that is. Scoop
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