tpmagee

Not quite true. I saw the agreed upon relative seniority list. A combined list would have favored ATA in straight DOH -- at least in the top 1/3.

eaglefly

Not at all emotional..........AFAIC, U can sink or swim.

But Parker sure seems desperate to merge this carrier into just about anyone (perhaps Burger King will be next).................I wonder why that is ?

justjack

This can NEVER be resolved. You cannot even ride in the van together from the hotels, let alone be trusted to fly in the same flight deck. Parker has played you all. He will get as much out of you as he can and then merge, while you bicker amongst yourselves. All the while, you go on believing that next year will be better. The Nic award was so egregious that the East pilots had nothing to lose by fighting. Parker clearly understood this. The West, knowing that most airline pilots will eat their own young for a better deal, erroneously figured that there would be enough dissenters on the East side to end this for a pay raise. The West did not understand that the sacrifice of one’s retirement, at an age that it is mathematically impossible to ever recoup it, irreversibly changes a person’s resolve.

eaglefly

The only real meger partner left is AA and they don't seem to be too interested in inheriting this albatross of a carrier.......at least in whole in its current form.

Once things get bad enough (and they will), then AA may be more agressive and Parker more interested about parting out sections or assets without the need for the baggage of the pilots. It would certainly be a boon to their own problems with the APA and avoid their last disaster of the TWA asset acquisition.

......or they can wait longer and get assets in the fire sale.

If Parker really wants to have a chance at returning this carrier to something that's sustainable, he'll have to resolve this pilot squabble once and for all and the only way to rip the pacifiers out of the easties mouths in thru BK.

justjack

BK laws have changed AND we have a Democrat in the White House. It would be much easier- even for Parker, to put a deal on the table that makes everyone happy. What this deal will consist of is going to be linked to the result of the LOA 93 decision. Based on the bombastic post by people who were SURE how the 9th would rule, lets agree that no one knows at this point, what that will be. But the die is cast and the company will wait it out until the Fall.

alfaromeo

The Ninth's ruling says nothing about the arbitration or its binding nature. What they said was a union has to ratify a deal before they can be sued for DFR. The Ninth also said nothing about which seniority integration method is fair or the gold standard.

There was a three party agreement in the AWA/AAA transition agreement with US Air management. That agreement was completed in its entirety and resulted in the Nicolau list. If US Air management deviates from that agreement they face the possibility of damages. I doubt that the management will ever agree to anything other than the Nicolau list as they will open themselves to massive damages for something that provides them with no benefits.

This agreement means that crew room lawyers with equally bad real lawyers, will get to renege on their deal for a little longer. They will take this as a sign they can prevail in this quest, but they will fail. Along the way, they will continue to lag the industry by a greater and greater amount. In the end, this will become the most fruitless and self damaging quests ever in the history of this profession.

brakechatter

You have no idea what will happen. Speculating in a post really has no basis for what a court will or will not do. This is what happens--right or wrong--when a group feels as wronged as the east pilots do.Agree with them or not, they prefer the nuclear option over an award which would have likely provided them substantial raises.

..and now a court has agreed that they have done no damage as of yet. I don't think anybody can predict what will happen, nor the legal ramifications if it.

Splash

The die is cast. No pilot wearing the Airways uniform, or their bargaining agent, will be trusted again.

Binding arbitration doesn't mean "unless we don't like it".

No one will ever forget what has happened here.

Pineapple Guy

Amen - truer words were never spoken.

Dashdog

........By whom?