Originally Posted by SpeedyT

Interesting. Meanwhile from the last conference call, FO pay rates maybe? will be reduced per contract.

Originally Posted by avi8tor614

I admire your service to our country THANK YOU SINCERELY, I really mean that. Let me explain it to you why there are people at Mesa. Yes there are pilots with issues at our company. GUESS WHAT there are ones at majors as well, with DUIs and crashes. I wanted to put that out there before you put that in your response. There are also people like myself who could not get on with a major because I did not have 121 time. Never mind the 1000s of corporate jet time I had. Military guys get a pass why couldn't I. I have no issue with that they are military men. THEY DESERVE TO go to the front of the line. This pushes me and guys like me to the back of the line when there is no demand for pilots. Fine I'm OK with it. Mesa had no reserve when I came here it was straight to the line. Pay sucks hereI wish it was better I'll give you that. BUT I will tell you I'm happy to come to work. Mesa is not as bad as people think. I'm trying to get out been trying the last few years. Guess what I'm not getting called. I DON'T HAVE DUI'S OR MULTIPLE FAILURES OR WHATEVER ELSE some one says I have that is not getting me hired . I have multiple UAexcellence awards, I'm a great co-worker to my flight team, I have more recommendations and serice awards than I can count plus I am handsome Lol. Yet I am still here and watch people without degrees, poor work ethic, less time, less experience get jobs I want. I almost went to Norwegian YES Norwegian Why because because my American Brothers and sisters won't hire me, but a foreign carrier will. There are tons of us at Mesa like this. Then to have some honorable guy like you come and diss the only place to give me a shot. How dare you. Mesa isn't broken it's a business doing what businesses do make money. What's broken is the system and fellow pilots like you who choose to poo poo on my decision to come here. I was too tall for a pilot slot in the airforce that was my disqualifier. Passed every test, met all educational requirement. But I was handicapped by something I can't control, if I was two inches shorter I'd been at a major ten years or more ago, you were lucky and got little boost work your military histor once again thank you. I can't make Delta, American, or United hire me. It's ashame. Being a good pilot is just 20% of what makes me, the other 80%I am dam good person surrounded by dam good people at my company. Cr appy contract yes voted in by a majority of the people who have not been here that long. Not by people who blood sweat and tears in this place. Your not here so I don't expect you to understand the dynamics of my company. It's not Mesa is doing just fine. Our work environment is fine. I know people more than 10 Lol who have moved on from Mesa and they miss it. They just don't miss the crappy pay
And the union antics.

Originally Posted by avi8tor614

I admire your service to our country THANK YOU SINCERELY, I really mean that. Let me explain it to you why there are people at Mesa. Yes there are pilots with issues at our company. GUESS WHAT there are ones at majors as well, with DUIs and crashes. I wanted to put that out there before you put that in your response. There are also people like myself who could not get on with a major because I did not have 121 time. Never mind the 1000s of corporate jet time I had. Military guys get a pass why couldn't I. I have no issue with that they are military men. THEY DESERVE TO go to the front of the line. This pushes me and guys like me to the back of the line when there is no demand for pilots. Fine I'm OK with it. Mesa had no reserve when I came here it was straight to the line. Pay sucks hereI wish it was better I'll give you that. BUT I will tell you I'm happy to come to work. Mesa is not as bad as people think. I'm trying to get out been trying the last few years. Guess what I'm not getting called. I DON'T HAVE DUI'S OR MULTIPLE FAILURES OR WHATEVER ELSE some one says I have that is not getting me hired . I have multiple UAexcellence awards, I'm a great co-worker to my flight team, I have more recommendations and serice awards than I can count plus I am handsome Lol. Yet I am still here and watch people without degrees, poor work ethic, less time, less experience get jobs I want. I almost went to Norwegian YES Norwegian Why because because my American Brothers and sisters won't hire me, but a foreign carrier will. There are tons of us at Mesa like this. Then to have some honorable guy like you come and diss the only place to give me a shot. How dare you. Mesa isn't broken it's a business doing what businesses do make money. What's broken is the system and fellow pilots like you who choose to poo poo on my decision to come here. I was too tall for a pilot slot in the airforce that was my disqualifier. Passed every test, met all educational requirement. But I was handicapped by something I can't control, if I was two inches shorter I'd been at a major ten years or more ago, you were lucky and got little boost work your military histor once again thank you. I can't make Delta, American, or United hire me. It's ashame. Being a good pilot is just 20% of what makes me, the other 80%I am dam good person surrounded by dam good people at my company. Cr appy contract yes voted in by a majority of the people who have not been here that long. Not by people who blood sweat and tears in this place. Your not here so I don't expect you to understand the dynamics of my company. It's not Mesa is doing just fine. Our work environment is fine. I know people more than 10 Lol who have moved on from Mesa and they miss it. They just don't miss the crappy pay
And the union antics.

Originally Posted by Southern Fried

I don't expect the Mesa pilots to understand. The mere fact that you are there explains where your head is at. You're an Alpa pilot group. Despite that you continue to accept substandard contracts that undercut your brothers at other regionals, thereby putting their jobs at risk. Should I applaud you for that? Of course not. By accepting employment there, you agree to the terms of the contract and all of it's ramifications.

I'm just pointing out the truth. I can't help it if you don't like it. When you make your bed, you have to lay in it.

Originally Posted by Southern Fried

I don't expect the Mesa pilots to understand. The mere fact that you are there explains where your head is at. You're an Alpa pilot group. Despite that you continue to accept substandard contracts that undercut your brothers at other regionals, thereby putting their jobs at risk. Should I applaud you for that? Of course not. By accepting employment there, you agree to the terms of the contract and all of it's ramifications.

I'm just pointing out the truth. I can't help it if you don't like it. When you make your bed, you have to lay in it.

Originally Posted by Southern Fried

I don't expect the Mesa pilots to understand. The mere fact that you are there explains where your head is at. You're an Alpa pilot group. Despite that you continue to accept substandard contracts that undercut your brothers at other regionals, thereby putting their jobs at risk. Should I applaud you for that? Of course not. By accepting employment there, you agree to the terms of the contract and all of it's ramifications.

I'm just pointing out the truth. I can't help it if you don't like it. When you make your bed, you have to lay in it.

Originally Posted by Southern Fried

I'm just pointing out the truth. I can't help it if you don't like it. When you make your bed, you have to lay in it.

Originally Posted by SpeedyT

Interesting. Meanwhile from the last conference call, FO pay rates maybe? will be reduced per contract.