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Old 04-03-2019 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Thanks... And what is going on with Mesa parking 6 CRJ900s for Eagle?
We’re not parking 6 aircraft, so nothing.
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Old 04-03-2019 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sennant
We’re not parking 6 aircraft, so nothing.
Okay I thought I remembered reading that somewhere... Disregard!
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Old 04-03-2019 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ESQ702
Who would you rank at the bottom as far as regionals go? Mesa gets so much hate around here I figured they were it.
There are actually a few. Definitely GoJet, and probably TSA.

Depending on your view of the flow to AA, Piedmont might belong on this list, too. Does a flow to AA outweigh having to put up with that **** for ten years?
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Old 04-03-2019 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Southern Fried
Depends on what your focus is. If it's other than pay rates, here's mine:

Mesa/Gojet
Skywest

Skywest on the bottom. You may be able to see that Contract and Union history is my focus. The history, current state, and working conditions of these regional airlines is a major influence. For me, Skywest will always be at the bottom and I would never advise anyone to go there.
You're not the first one I've seen to warn against OO b/c of the lack of a union contract. I was talking recently with a SWA FO who spoke about how valuable a good union contract is. Makes sense.
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Old 04-03-2019 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ESQ702
You're not the first one I've seen to warn against OO b/c of the lack of a union contract. I was talking recently with a SWA FO who spoke about how valuable a good union contract is. Makes sense.
Well, look at Western Global in the ACMI world. They make decent money but no contract. If Atlas was to buy them tomorrow, nothing protects the pilots and payrates. Atlas could decide to pay them what ever they wanted.
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Old 04-03-2019 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals
Interesting. My friend there told me they don’t even have it.
He's wrong. It's in the contract. They just haven't used it. But they can if they want.
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Old 04-03-2019 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
He's wrong. It's in the contract. They just haven't used it. But they can if they want.
PSA just announced a new contract with great rates.
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Old 04-03-2019 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
PSA just announced a new contract with great rates.
Yes they did. 100% irrelevant to the post you quoted though, I was talking about Republic and ready reserve.

PSA is a great choice right now - good pay, flow, and SAP.
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Old 04-03-2019 | 10:26 PM
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Interesting. Meanwhile from the last conference call, FO pay rates maybe? will be reduced per contract.
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Old 04-04-2019 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Southern Fried
Wow. Thats what you got from that? Your reply is ironic. Of course there's no intent. You and your ilk are blinded by your ambition and/or desire to move up the ladder of your pilot career. The fact is, you don't care what your actions do to other pilot groups. If you did care, you wouldn't have accepted employment at Mesa.
I admire your service to our country THANK YOU SINCERELY, I really mean that. Let me explain it to you why there are people at Mesa. Yes there are pilots with issues at our company. GUESS WHAT there are ones at majors as well, with DUIs and crashes. I wanted to put that out there before you put that in your response. There are also people like myself who could not get on with a major because I did not have 121 time. Never mind the 1000s of corporate jet time I had. Military guys get a pass why couldn't I. I have no issue with that they are military men. THEY DESERVE TO go to the front of the line. This pushes me and guys like me to the back of the line when there is no demand for pilots. Fine I'm OK with it. Mesa had no reserve when I came here it was straight to the line. Pay sucks hereI wish it was better I'll give you that. BUT I will tell you I'm happy to come to work. Mesa is not as bad as people think. I'm trying to get out been trying the last few years. Guess what I'm not getting called. I DON'T HAVE DUI'S OR MULTIPLE FAILURES OR WHATEVER ELSE some one says I have that is not getting me hired . I have multiple UAexcellence awards, I'm a great co-worker to my flight team, I have more recommendations and serice awards than I can count plus I am handsome Lol. Yet I am still here and watch people without degrees, poor work ethic, less time, less experience get jobs I want. I almost went to Norwegian YES Norwegian Why because because my American Brothers and sisters won't hire me, but a foreign carrier will. There are tons of us at Mesa like this. Then to have some honorable guy like you come and diss the only place to give me a shot. How dare you. Mesa isn't broken it's a business doing what businesses do make money. What's broken is the system and fellow pilots like you who choose to poo poo on my decision to come here. I was too tall for a pilot slot in the airforce that was my disqualifier. Passed every test, met all educational requirement. But I was handicapped by something I can't control, if I was two inches shorter I'd been at a major ten years or more ago, you were lucky and got little boost work your military histor once again thank you. I can't make Delta, American, or United hire me. It's ashame. Being a good pilot is just 20% of what makes me, the other 80%I am dam good person surrounded by dam good people at my company. Cr appy contract yes voted in by a majority of the people who have not been here that long. Not by people who blood sweat and tears in this place. Your not here so I don't expect you to understand the dynamics of my company. It's not Mesa is doing just fine. Our work environment is fine. I know people more than 10 Lol who have moved on from Mesa and they miss it. They just don't miss the crappy pay
And the union antics.
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