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03-26-2019 | 10:06 AM

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What is the deal with 950 SIC? Does that mean one could have 950 121 SIC time on day 1 of upgrade course?

03-26-2019 | 10:32 AM

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What is the deal with 950 SIC? Does that mean one could have 950 121 SIC time on day 1 of upgrade course?

Probably yes and you get the rest on IOE

03-26-2019 | 11:37 AM

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It’s no joke that the quality of new hires is not what it once was. There’s a high failure rate in upgrade. I think this contributes to people waiting to have more experience before upgrade. 2000 seems to be the magic number. That said - FO are being picked up by LCC and cargo. Most seniority movement is FO leaving.

If “most seniority movement is FO leaving” that doesn’t argue that TPIC isn’t important, it argues that you’ve got a seniority gridlock of captains that the legacies won’t but hire who don’t want to give up the pay or seniority to start over at an LCC.

03-26-2019 | 01:15 PM

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I thinks that’s an accurate assessment.

03-26-2019 | 01:48 PM

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TPIC not worth anything? Maybe if you go to an airline where other pilots don't hire you. If you're stuck at Mesa, you may want to rethink the value in TPIC.

I'm not positive, but don't most majors still require 1000 TPIC?

And what's the deal with FO's getting hired by majors? Is that really happening?

03-26-2019 | 01:52 PM

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I'm not positive, but don't most majors still require 1000 TPIC?

And what's the deal with FO's getting hired by majors? Is that really happening?

LCC and cargo. I know of none going to a major.

03-26-2019 | 02:16 PM

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I'm not positive, but don't most majors still require 1000 TPIC?

And what's the deal with FO's getting hired by majors? Is that really happening?

No. Many no longer require 1000 TPIC. Just PIC, so they count the CFI time of FOs.

03-26-2019 | 02:43 PM

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Agreed as well Im not saying it isn't important just that its not a golden ticket.

03-26-2019 | 03:05 PM

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No. Many no longer require 1000 TPIC. Just PIC, so they count the CFI time of FOs.

So does anyone know an FO that was hired by a major without 1000 TPIC?

And which majors don't require 1000 TPIC?

03-26-2019 | 03:19 PM

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So does anyone know an FO that was hired by a major without 1000 TPIC?

And which majors don't require 1000 TPIC?

Frontier was definitely hiring FOs before their new contract. And they are accepting FOs in flow from TSA with two years experience. So yeah, it happens. Sort of depends on your definition of “major.”