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backtoregionals 06-30-2019 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2845564)
I seriously doubt Mesa will have trouble crewing the 737 fleet.
Rational "I just do it for the type" "just until WN calls" "it'll look good on my CV" etc.

Yea until Mesa requires a 5-year training contract to keep people from doing that.

sailingfun 06-30-2019 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 2845366)
I'm sure Mesa has lawyers to handle these issues.

Other airlines have tried. Their lawyers failed.

sailingfun 06-30-2019 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2845388)
If I was a mainline partner, I would be much more concerned about losing Mesa as a provider. Cargo is more lucrative, don't need FA's, cut your training costs in half, no part 117, so 30% less pilots needed. Mesa would have more leverage to tell a mainline to frig off. Mesa would have zero issues finding pilots to fly a 737, and could be far more picky about things if they wanted to be.
Unfortunately, this will further remove any bargaining chips the pilot group has. Be careful what you wish for ;)

If cargo was do lucrative every one would be doing it and all the airlines that shut flown their cargo divisions had no idea how much they were making. I have no idea where you came up with 117 requiring 30% more pilots. It was about 2% at Delta.

pangolin 06-30-2019 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by backtoregionals (Post 2845532)
I’d quit Mesa before I go fly old beater 737’s for this place.

I have zero interest in flying cargo for anyone.

SVTCobra 06-30-2019 07:17 PM

JO is chumming the waters again with this 737 crap. I heard it off and on when I was there from 1999-2011, except it was going to be pax flying.

No Land 3 06-30-2019 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 2845773)
I have zero interest in flying cargo for anyone.

Haha, I've learned to never say never.

No Land 3 06-30-2019 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2845706)
If cargo was do lucrative every one would be doing it and all the airlines that shut flown their cargo divisions had no idea how much they were making. I have no idea where you came up with 117 requiring 30% more pilots. It was about 2% at Delta.

When I was hired at Mesa, in one of the first classes since the furlough, the reason they said they were hiring us is because they needed 30% more pilots to cover 117. Perhaps some of that was also because of the furlough leaving their ranks extra thin. I can see why Delta would only need 2% more, their work rules are such that they already had most of it covered.
AA is the largest freight company in Miami, what do you think is in the belly of 777's? Not just passenger bags...

WhipWhitaker 06-30-2019 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2845870)
When I was hired at Mesa, in one of the first classes since the furlough, the reason they said they were hiring us is because they needed 30% more pilots to cover 117. Perhaps some of that was also because of the furlough leaving their ranks extra thin. I can see why Delta would only need 2% more, their work rules are such that they already had most of it covered.
AA is the largest freight company in Miami, what do you think is in the belly of 777's? Not just passenger bags...

In what metric is American Airlines “the largest freight company in Miami?” The largest passenger operator that also hauls freight maybe..

maxjet 07-01-2019 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by SVTCobra (Post 2845842)
JO is chumming the waters again with this 737 crap. I heard it off and on when I was there from 1999-2011, except it was going to be pax flying.

Well, this time it is actually happening

boeingdvr 07-03-2019 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by maxjet (Post 2845887)
Well, this time it is actually happening

I’m sure DHL with throw you some ratty ass -400’s. You will be operating CVG-Lincoln Nebraska at 2:45am in no time. Welcome to the dirty DHL hub, BTW- stay away from
Jolynns chicken soup.


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