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chrisreedrules 04-12-2019 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2801919)
I was at Mesa before 117. Do you know what 117 did? It made things more complicated and was a pay cut.
No more standups, fine. But if you did a stand up on your last day, you were released to go home around 6am or whenever you got back to base.

I wish stand up lines were a thing, I’d probably bid them.

TeamSasquatch 04-12-2019 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2801707)
UPS scope won't allow it, basically anything bigger than a Shorts would have to be flown at UPS, IIRC.

Thanks for the info

ninerdriver 04-12-2019 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2801933)
I wish stand up lines were a thing, I’d probably bid them.

If you need a crash pad anyway, then they're a commuter's dream. Start late day 1, end early on the last day. Just break your sleep into two chunks... one on duty and one when you get back.

atpcliff 04-12-2019 06:22 PM

Southern, owned by Atlas, recently committed to fly 20 737s for Amazon. Between Atlas and ATSG, I believe that Amazon is now up to 80 aircraft planned. Since the Amazon ramps in CVG are designed for at least 300 aircraft, there is room for about 220 more...

pangolin 04-12-2019 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2802018)
Southern, owned by Atlas, recently committed to fly 20 737s for Amazon. Between Atlas and ATSG, I believe that Amazon is now up to 80 aircraft planned. Since the Amazon ramps in CVG are designed for at least 300 aircraft, there is room for about 220 more...

Do these companies have “exclusive” deals with Amazon?

atpcliff 04-13-2019 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 2802070)
Do these companies have “exclusive” deals with Amazon?

Not that we have heard.
Also, with the new 737s for Atlas, and the new 767s for ATSG (ABX, Omni and ATI), Amazon now has warrants to purchase up to 40% of the stock for each company.

No Land 3 04-14-2019 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2802097)
Not that we have heard.
Also, with the new 737s for Atlas, and the new 767s for ATSG (ABX, Omni and ATI), Amazon now has warrants to purchase up to 40% of the stock for each company.

Have you seen the pay rates for Southern's 737's? Well, if JO wanted to get in on the action, he certainly could. As I understand it, Southern is having staffing issues for the 73.

Sniper66 04-15-2019 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2800339)
Throw in homebasing, where they buy you a ticket into work, and to go home, the entire pilot group would go for it, don't kid yourself in thinking no one would do it.
Ready reserve all day or night? Packages come in and go out like clockwork, you shouldn't be sitting any reserve when airplanes aren't scheduled.
Furthermore, the industry standard is for you to be in a paid for hotel room when not on ready, with homebasing.
As bad as it sounds to you, industry standard for this sort of thing is still light years ahead of the regionals. But again, JO will do what he wants, and Mesa pilots will accept it.








JO tried that and the Mesa pilots told him to GFH
back in 2003 or 04 if my memory is correct
737 IBM shuttle ( Spirit rates 119 per hr 12 year captain )

flyguy727 04-16-2019 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2800244)
It would have to be under a different operating certificate I'd think.

Southern Air I thought was going to operate the 737s for Amazon.

Southern air is going away at the end of the year. it's all going to be Atlas. DHL already has all the operators it needs in the US and had a well structured system in CVG, I don't see them needing MESA.

nordo 04-18-2019 08:02 PM

Heard they’re 737-400s with (no kidding) steam gauges and an EFIS sort-of PFD. Old, worn out 73’s. Probably no RNAV, definitely no VNAV. Maybe they’ll get a good deal on some slightly-used MAXs 🤣🤣🤣

For low wages and a (likely) 5-year training agreement you too can get a 737-type. Just think, doing your backside of the clock flying and getting to that glamorous LaQuinta van at 5am. So very believable


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