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Originally Posted by scubadiver (Post 2905015)

What is ACMI? That is true.. didn't think of that, although most majors may prefer 121 time. I don't have an ATP so I am not sure how that would work with going to a major without an ATP...

ACMI is 121 cargo/passenger charter, where the company supplies Airplanes, Crew, Maintenance, and Insurance.
CMI is where the customer supplies the airplane. Think of Kalitta(K4), Atlas, Southern, ATI, ABX, Western Global, Sky Lease, Omni, and a few others.

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Originally Posted by JoeDeertay (Post 2905022)

That would be ideal. I went to another regional that had a crap training program and failed my ATP on the first attempt and didn't get a second try. Out of my class of about a dozen, only 3 made it to the line. Pretty abysmal success rate. Hence why I am not really getting the pick of the litter at other regionals right now. ****ty too because before I chose the crap regional, I had offers from all the top ones (Endeavor, Republic, etc) but picked one that had a base close to me. Just a series of bad choices. At the end of the day, it's all my fault.

Yes, sometimes in aviation there's bad apples or giant ego's that can be unfair, but generally speaking, you must own it moving forward.
I can speak for Kalitta(K4) and will not hesitate to say that the training is very difficult for some one new to international wide body flying, is a fire hose at times, and instructors who only respect you giving 150% effort. People that complain about early or late sim times... Just don't do it.
Point being, the training I received at Mesa was geared for new people leaving bug smasher flying, new to jets, etc. It was a great transition.
It is my understanding that the training at majors is top notch and geared to making you the pilot they want. Everyone between regionals and the majors is geared towards weeding out those that aren't cutting the mustard, not interested in growing you.

I definitely own it, I know I could have done more.

Not really wanting to share which one, but it wasn't Air Wisconsin. It was one that is well known for not having a great training program and MANY failures (which I didn't believe was true until I was there). Trained by an outside company, evaluated by bitter company pilots (mostly, not all). It seems they are attempting to use the pilots coming through training to try and prove a point or effect change.

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Originally Posted by JoeDeertay (Post 2906697)

PSA? TSA? You don't have to answer.

I’m guessing psa they flunk out a lot of pilots.

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Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2907599)

PSA? TSA? You don't have to answer.

It sounds kinda like Gojet tbh.

Hey nebiew right here on the latest October class, any advice or gouges for the next 3 months or so of training?

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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 2907642)

I’m guessing psa they flunk out a lot of pilots.

I second that

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Originally Posted by jetlag q (Post 2908529)

I second that

Yeah, but PSA isn’t considered a crap regional. OP said he went to a “crap” regional.