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Old 12-12-2019 | 07:22 AM
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You guys getting GoJet’ed?
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Old 12-12-2019 | 10:35 AM
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You guys getting GoJet’ed?
No - it's a plan to keep flying for AA if they run up against a scope limitation and want to get more ejets. It's a hedge and a good one.
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Old 12-12-2019 | 11:21 AM
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No - it's a plan to keep flying for AA if they run up against a scope limitation and want to get more ejets. It's a hedge and a good one.
So GoJet’ed, considering this is exactly what UA did because of scope.
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Old 12-12-2019 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator
So GoJet’ed, considering this is exactly what UA did because of scope.
Pay's not tied to seats anymore. So what do we care about how many seats are in it?
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Old 12-12-2019 | 12:54 PM
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So GoJet’ed, considering this is exactly what UA did because of scope.
If the planes with 65 seats require a new type, then that would be GoJet'd.

If the planes only require maintenance taking out a few seats to get to 65, then that's a lot easier.
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Old 12-13-2019 | 05:03 AM
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It would be a full recertification like the 550. Good news for Envoy at least!
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Old 12-13-2019 | 05:11 AM
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The problem is that when you reduce the seat count the aircraft are no longer economically viable. Management has used this playbook many times in the past. Either they get the unions to agree to putting the seats back in or the airframes quietly go away in a few years.
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Old 12-13-2019 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
It would be a full recertification like the 550. Good news for Envoy at least!
No it wouldn’t need the new certification. It’ll be a long range plane.
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Old 12-15-2019 | 02:18 AM
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No it wouldn’t need the new certification. It’ll be a long range plane.
You do realize that anytime you change seating configurations it changes the aircraft basic operating weight and the weight and balance right? It would have to be recertified and approved by the FAA. Hence why the 700 at GoJet became the, “550”. Same plane from the pilot perspective, just different from a paperwork perspective.
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
You do realize that anytime you change seating configurations it changes the aircraft basic operating weight and the weight and balance right? It would have to be recertified and approved by the FAA. Hence why the 700 at GoJet became the, “550”. Same plane from the pilot perspective, just different from a paperwork perspective.
Not exactly. At OO we’ve had a lot of 700s for American go from 70 to 65 seats. Obviously they have to change the weight and balance numbers but it doesn’t change the certification.
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