If you could make a change???
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 432
Just fly the ODP. It’s not that hard and it’s there for a reason.
Over at GUC, the controllers WILL get onto you if you don’t fly the ODP. Remember, It’s not just about obstacle clearance, but also about being where the controller expects you be before you establish contact.
Over at GUC, the controllers WILL get onto you if you don’t fly the ODP. Remember, It’s not just about obstacle clearance, but also about being where the controller expects you be before you establish contact.
however, it’s ironic that the ODP involves a right turn, to intercept a radial to MARKE... yet the single-engine procedure off 21 is straight out. So you’re saying if we lose an engine we can fly straight out but if we have 2 we have to do more work to avoid terrain??!?
#12
From what I understand, talking to a few check airmen about the DRO thing, is that no one at the FAA wants to stick their neck on the line and answer that question for us. Apparently some of the check airmen having been asking our feds about this and they can’t get an answer.
#13
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 83
When they release us for departure on the ground I just request a vfr climb on course. Then they approve it and everyone is on the same page.
#14
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,494
Pattern altitude all day long. Or 2000.
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 925
This is probably true on segments of the approach. However, GOM, Chapter 3 (Departure), Paragraph 14 “Manual Flight Operations” it specifically states, “RNAV departures and arrivals, RVSM, etc. must still be flown with the autopilot engaged.”
#18
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 3
Got line checked last week and apparently a few guys have been getting busted on CAMPA’s by not adding the intermediate fix between the final approach fix and the runway. When you load the approach in the box, the intermediate fix isn’t in there so you have to go to the legs page and manually enter the fix with the altitude between the FAF and the MAP. I personally don’t ever remember being taught that in the training dept or sims. Just a heads up fellas, that would be a terrible thing to miss and have to head back to Phoenix with a failed Line Check on your PRIA.
#19
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 3
Also, I would love some clarification from the training department on having to run the QRH for an ICE caution message. I know it can be avoided in general by just turning it all on before you enter icing conditions, but I personally never run the QRH for it when it does happen because you’re operating a normal system. It seems like 50% of LCA’s are fine with that the other half want to see you reference the book because it’s a caution message.
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 105
I was referring to the “no hand flying the RNAV arrival.”. but thank you. please make sure you emphasize no hand flying the RNAV departures, EVEN if it’s a heading departure. that was the real point i was trying to make. Thank you.
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