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Old 04-02-2020, 08:41 AM
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Mesa is in good spot folks. Mesa will be getting its “own” piece of the $25 billion in grants to pay our payroll. We don’t need to depend on the trickle down of AA or UA. This puts us in a good spot, I can’t speak for Skywest or Republic or the wholly owneds’ Mesa is currently putting in an application for access to some of the $25 billion in “loans”. That’s how it works. Also the government has asked for last year's payroll from March 1, 2019-September 30, 2019, based off Min guarantees during that period. This is how we will be getting paid.That is what guaranteed from our government. So if your union or company Ask you to take less than this. Hard No. You should at least be getting the minimum guarantee of your contract the government is footing the bill; the company does have the right to ask you take less. We save our save our share code partners money by being able to independently pay our salaries through the government bailout and we own a good chunk of our aircraft. Not sure how this is going to pan out for the other regionals, I hope well for them also. Importantly hold the line on the guarantee. Even if AA and UA reduce the flying the flying. We can do less flying and stay within the scope limits but federal government is still paying you the minimum contracted guarantee, don’t get the two confused. Our pay from March till end of September is backed by government.
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Old 04-02-2020, 09:03 AM
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And then Oct 1 the shoe drops.....as a pilot great I'd keep my job 6 months . Bad deal for taxpayers since they will most likely just prolong the cuts til then Plus the strings arent worth it in my opinion. Hope I'm wrong
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Old 04-02-2020, 09:14 AM
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Didn't you already take concessions on your min guarantee?
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Old 04-02-2020, 09:20 AM
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Didn't you already take concessions on your min guarantee?
company has the option. The min guarantee was not reduced for April.
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Old 04-02-2020, 09:57 AM
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So can the company take the government money and give us the pay cut for the reduced hrs ALPA agreed to next month and JO pocket the rest?
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Old 04-02-2020, 10:29 AM
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Damn shame the company already furloughed pilots and is therefore in violation of the bailout funds requirements.
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Old 04-02-2020, 10:50 AM
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Damn shame the company already furloughed pilots and is therefore in violation of the bailout funds requirements.
they can recall them. That’s what commutair did.
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:50 AM
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they can recall them. That’s what commutair did.
Commutair never furloughed, so there is no recalling them. They rescinded the furlough so it never happened.
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Old 04-02-2020, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot View Post
Damn shame the company already furloughed pilots and is therefore in violation of the bailout funds requirements.
Don’t hold this to a legal standard, but it may be that non line qualified pilots are classified as nonessential personnel. Non essential personnel do not fall under the furlough requirements stated for corona virus relief.
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Old 04-02-2020, 03:05 PM
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I am not sure, lot of this is grey area, our union does know that the money received is supposed to be allocated to our minimum guarantee rate for us and the FA’s. The ALPA national rep that called me from DC did say Mesa can ask us to take less. Why would my union ask me to take a cut knowing full well Uncle Sam has guaranteed my min till September. The only way I would do that is if the Union said no furloughs or lay-offs for an extended period of time. Meaning Mesa would try to stretch the funds given to us for more months like an extra 6 or something until the market can fully recover. Write your local senators and congressmen and ALPA National to find out some of the details and intricacies of this bill. Things are still being mapped out. I just wanted to be ahead of the game just in case our wonderful union or Mesa management dilutes the real information. So to answer your question it sounds like to “ME” they can pocket the money or stretch it for payroll purposes.
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