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09-23-2022 | 07:47 AM
#11
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
*sigh*.
This rumor/myth has to be displaced. I paid for all my hours because I did not want to do CFI, and I was successful in airline training.
I learned a LOT and gained a lot of experience, much more than a CFI ever would.
Me, and all my other time building pals who have done the very same thing (8+) have made it through without any issues. The good chunk of them in majors right now, and a couple at legacies.
This rumor/myth has to be displaced. I paid for all my hours because I did not want to do CFI, and I was successful in airline training.
I learned a LOT and gained a lot of experience, much more than a CFI ever would.
Me, and all my other time building pals who have done the very same thing (8+) have made it through without any issues. The good chunk of them in majors right now, and a couple at legacies.
But it is a path which enables certain personality types to do an end-run around the usual professional development path.
Wealthy career changers, no big deal it's not going to make much difference either way. Trust fund kids on the other hand can often benefit from some real-world professional development.
It's legal and nobodies saying that it shouldn't be because that's splitting too fine of a hair... the 1500 hour rule is very blunt instrument.
But I have noticed it when flying some GIA alumni in years past.
09-23-2022 | 10:09 AM
#12
All is fine at .79
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From: Paahlot
They’re not going to let you take those planes anywhere. Practice area and the same 5 cross countries you did in training as that’s how Part 141 works.
Your brain needs variation, satisfaction and incentives like remuneration aka work for money.
09-23-2022 | 06:12 PM
#13
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09-23-2022 | 07:45 PM
#14
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Perfect response to 1500hr rule
Excellent program. Far better than trying to teach an idiot not to freeze up on the controls and kill us in a stall spin for a thousand plus hours. Whoever thinks teaching is the way for everyone needs to emergency descend from their high chair and seek medical attention from hypoxia and check their hazardous attitudes about some bogus lie about cfi making everyone a better pilot and that's the only safest way to do such.
09-23-2022 | 09:14 PM
#15
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hopefully one day you’ll be a high mins CA paired up with a weak FO who can’t set up a visual approach to save his life.
09-24-2022 | 04:23 PM
#16
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From: It's a plane and it's a seat
Been there done that, a good Captain takes the time to mentor that new FO. You must of been Chuck Yeager as a new pilot. Most new hire pilots I flew with and trained the visual approach was the hardest concept to learn.
09-25-2022 | 06:48 AM
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09-25-2022 | 07:07 AM
#19
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My point was, to the CFI naysayers, having some instructing experience under your belt can really help when you transition to the left seat.
09-26-2022 | 07:04 AM
#20
All is fine at .79
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From: Paahlot
Being a CFI teaches you people skills and the discipline to hold your tongue when you’re flying with people that you really do not want to associate with in your time off.
You learn to introduce your opinion in a non confrontational way.
Being a CFI is about development of your people skills.
You’ll need to work for a independent school or FBO where you have all ages and all skill levels walking in.
If you work for a sausage factory where every student is your own age and you call them dude and brah….not so much.
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